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From Quiet Riot to Rock Icon: The Tragic End of Randy Rhoads (Episode 132)
How did a young guitarist from Los Angeles breathe new life into a rock legend's solo career? Join us as we explore the captivating story of Randy Rhoads, whose extraordinary talent transformed Ozzy Osbourne's music and left an indelible mark on rock and roll. We'll take you back to Randy's early years, nurtured by his mother's unwavering discipline and passion for music, setting the stage for his rise to stardom. Hear how icons like Alice Cooper and David Bowie shaped his musical journey, despite growing up in a household without a stereo.
From the formation of Quiet Riot to the pivotal moment when Kevin Dubrow joined as lead vocalist, we'll chart Randy's path through the LA music scene, filled with triumphs and tribulations. Gain insights into the behind-the-scenes dynamics that led him to Ozzy Osbourne's band, and the surprising challenges and anecdotes along the way, including the influence of Don Arden and Sharon Osbourne's affair with Jay Leno. Discover the chemistry between Ozzy and Randy, and how it created some of the most memorable moments in rock history, despite the chaos that surrounded their tours.
Tragically, Randy's promising career was cut short by a senseless airplane stunt, leaving the music community in mourning. We'll recount the harrowing details of the accident, featuring perspectives from Eddie Van Halen and a heartbroken Ozzy Osbourne. Despite his untimely death at just 25, Randy's legacy as a guitar virtuoso continues to inspire musicians around the globe. Join us as we remember the life and legacy of Randy Rhoads, a true rock legend whose influence endures in the annals of music history.
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Gather round rock and roll fans, because in this episode we're tuning our strings to the haunting story of a guitar god whose riffs could summon the devil himself Randy Rhoades. In March 1982, the virtuoso who breathed new life into Ozzy Osbourne's solo career found himself in a twisted encore. No one saw coming Strap in as we unravel the bizarre chain of events that led to Rhodes' tragic demise and an airplane stunt gone horribly wrong. That's today on Death in Entertainment.
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Speaker 1:in hollywood now two counts of murder injury and death oh my god, shocking new details that has stunned the entertainment world. Um, this makes me a little nervous. The hair stood up on my arms just like in the movies.
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Speaker 1:Greetings Ditto Universe. Hello there, what's up everybody? My name's Kyle Plouffe and I'm Alejandro Dowling, and today we have the wild ride of Randy Rhodes, one of the most crazy touring road stories of all time that ended someone's life way too early. And yeah, I don't know if anybody who doesn't know this story. I don't think you're prepared for how crazy this gets.
Speaker 3:I don't remember all the details, if any, except that it's some sort of crazy airplane stunt that really didn't need to happen. Something like that. Okay, did it involve a bit of being a show-off?
Speaker 1:uh, not on his part oh, okay yeah, all right, I I'm gonna just let you tell this story yes, and before we do tell the story, we're gonna let everyone know that's listening. There is gonna be some comedy involved in this podcast, okay what yes, we make light of things around here. So if that's not your bag, if you don't like true crime comedy podcasts, then get on another flight.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 1:I agree, and without further ado, let's take two tickets to paradise. Yeah, baby all right, randall william rhodes.
Speaker 3:He was born december 6 1956 in santa monica, california not too far, just down the street, right down the 405 and an hour drive, yeah, on the highway nine miles, two hour drive.
Speaker 1:Uh, both his mother and father were actually musicians, so music was in his blood much like dime bag.
Speaker 3:Yes, a lot of these legends come from musical families. Yeah, I've come to find, which explains why I don't have any musical talent. I can't think of anybody in my entire family tree that plays an instrument. Well, that plays it professionally yeah, I mean, you know it's a tough gig um, but don't you think there's something to that theory that it's in the blood?
Speaker 1:I think so, yeah I think any industry it's kind of you know you get passed down. Your father was a a janitor. Your father's father was a janitor, oh god yeah it's the family business.
Speaker 1:either a janitor or a rock and roll star yeah exactly, but his mother, dolores, actually played professional piano or piano professionally, and his dad was a public school music teacher who tried to perform as a solo act. So, like I said, his blood type was A minor. It was. His blood type was A minor it was. But when Randy was a year and a half old, his father left his mother, remarried another woman and hit the bricks with a new family.
Speaker 3:All right, Well, he didn't really earn that. No, he wasn't a big music star.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 3:He was a teacher At a public school and you can just imagine his ego. But in his head he's the star.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And so he can leave his wife, because that's what they do in the rock and roll industry.
Speaker 1:Papa was a rolling stone and not one of the good ones. Yeah, that's main character syndrome. When people just think that they're the man and they're living in a movie and everybody else is just in it for the ride. So that left his mother. When people just think that they're the man and they're living in a movie and everybody else is just in it for the ride, so that left his mother, dolores, to raise Randy, his brother Doug and his sister Kathy all three kids on her own that is horrible. Yeah, she graduated from UCLA with a degree in music and also opened her own music school. In where else, but right here in North Hollywood, california, really? Yeah, I actually looked it up. The address is one block away from my place right now. Shut up, it's still there.
Speaker 3:Okay, we're adding it to the die tour we're going to have to go. Yeah, it would take a little bit of explaining, but this is Randy Rhoads' mom's old school. Yeah, he died there. No, no, but he spent some formative years playing music there exactly now I heard that she was a bit of a disciplinarian.
Speaker 1:You would be correct, my friend, because she's a successful, independent woman who don't need no man for shit. She's doing all this stuff on her own.
Speaker 3:She's raising a family um, you'd almost have to be in that situation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um and I don't mean like disciplinarian in the normal sense, that she was very tough on them but she kind of was like she, um, you know, wanted to do everything by the book and make sure her kids were, you know, on the right path, and and I think she was just really worried after the father left that they might get depressed or try to run away or whatever. So she was just making sure to be right on them.
Speaker 3:It's a classic bridge to depression when there's a divorce in the family, yeah, or kids acting out Exactly so.
Speaker 1:As soon as she started the, the school she was bringing um randy there with her. He was like six years old. Uh, he was poking around the music school called the musonia school of music and musonia. Wow, he opened a closet door. Uh, that's like the Britannic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that name, the USS Musonia. He opened a closet door and knocked over one of his grandfather's acoustic guitars and his mother ran in there and was like what are you doing? And he's like, well, I want to play that now. I don't know what that is, so it didn't break, no.
Speaker 3:So at six years old. He it just fell.
Speaker 2:Yeah, didn't break no.
Speaker 3:So at six years old he just fell, and then it started rattling like that would be amazing.
Speaker 1:Uh, so yeah, at six years old he started getting guitar lessons.
Speaker 3:That's the age, you have to start.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I tried it when I was a teenager. Didn't exactly set the world on fire, not so good.
Speaker 1:So yeah, he was playing music, playing guitar, for six years. At 12 years old his mother finally got him to break and take piano lessons, like she wanted him to, because, as good as he was at guitar, he didn't even know how to read music. So she wanted him to learn music theory and know how to actually read the notes and where they go on the scales and all that stuff. So he actually took up to that really easily and started reading music quickly and then got very bored of the piano because his love for the electric guitar was just shining through.
Speaker 3:That is sort of a deviation as well. I would say that he learned all the notes Because a lot of those guitar gods like Jimi Hendrix didn't even know how to read music.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly. I would say more don't than do.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:So Dolores asked one of her in-house instructors to teach randy the electric guitar, and just after a few weeks the teacher was like I can't teach him anything else because he already knows everything that I know. Like he's that good, um, keep in mind, he's had a knack for it and had already been playing acoustic for about six years, so it kind of came naturally to be able to. It's not even switching over, it's just playing the same instrument, um, and some people just have it, uh, but it's nice to see a grown adult teacher being like nah, he's good, like he just needs to go off and really start playing now. To be honest about it, yeah, because some people will still be like no, you're under my thumb and I'll teach you everything and blah, blah, blah, right, so going from solo to band play. Now he was 14 years old. He created his first band, violet fox, named after his mother's middle name, violet.
Speaker 3:It's a nice tribute, yeah, and calling her a fox yeah, that's a little weird foxy violet some freudian stuff there that's my mom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a little oedipus complex. Oh yeah, oedipus, yeah, but freud too. Um, randy, he was playing guitar and his brother doug played the drums, and they would cover the rolling stones alex, alice, cooper, the beatles, david bowie and more.
Speaker 3:Those were his biggest idols Alice Cooper and David Bowie yes, specifically Mick Ronson, who was the guitarist in Bowie's band in the Ziggy Stardust days. Right, and looking at Randy's picture now that you have up, he sort of looks like Mick Ronson.
Speaker 1:I think he modeled his whole style after him right, which is interesting because he was no handed up being known as the guy for that style too yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:A lot of people probably wouldn't know the name mick ronson right, um, and, like you said, his mother was a disciplinarian, so they created all the music they could listen to at home. As weird as it sounds, randy's mother did not allow them to have a stereo in the house, so there was no radio. Um, instead of listening all the time, they were just creating and perfecting their craft together.
Speaker 1:Come on, yeah they didn't listen to other music well, that doesn't mean they weren't sneaking tapes and listening to them when they could, but it was just hidden.
Speaker 3:Because obviously he went and listened to Alice Cooper and David Bowie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like can you imagine living in a house where your mom is a music teacher but doesn't allow you to listen to music? That's abusive. It's like a drug dealer that doesn't do their own drugs. That's awful.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Because that's a house of just holding back, that's a house where you're not going to fully enjoy yourself the thing she creates is contraband in the house, like I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't understand that, yeah, but can you argue against it?
Speaker 3:it'd be like she sets up these writing workshops in her basement for the kids and then she's like but no books, yeah, weekly book burning. If I catch you reading Mark Twain, you're out of here, you're going to have to write about it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but can you argue against what she created? I mean, he became one of the greatest rock guitarists of all time in a very short amount of time.
Speaker 3:One in a hundred turn out like Randy Rhodes. Less than that. The others are pushing shopping carts by Ralph.
Speaker 1:Randy absolutely loved hearing live versions of concerts and he preferred them over studio recorded music because he noticed that the guitar players were not as constrained by the format, which is true when you go see a band live. You could hear the same song a million times over the years, but you'd hear a different guitar solo every time too. He just loved that, and he would memorize all the different iterations of guitar solos from different live albums and play them live for people, and it would just blow people away that he knew them. In July of 1971, when he was 14 years old, he and his brother went to see Alice Cooper at the Long Beach Auditorium, and it changed his life forever.
Speaker 1:School's out forever and ever the lights, the sounds, the crowd, the aura, aura, the feeling in the building. Something just clicked where he knew he could work his way to experiencing that same thing on stage, on stage, one day. And he was right. Less than two years later, he started a rock band that would soon be world famous. Oh, along with his childhood best friend, kelly Garney, he started a band called Little Women.
Speaker 3:This is where the record scratcher.
Speaker 1:Little Women. Does that not sound familiar?
Speaker 3:It doesn't. I've heard of the book.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Seen the movie. Yeah, that's because that band ended up getting a couple new members and becoming quiet riot. Oh yes, uh, quiet riot. The actual band name came from a quote from a british musician, rick parfit, from the band status quo. Uh, he had just mentioned in an interview that he thought quite right would be a great band name, but the guys in the band were saying it in a British accent, so they were saying Quiet Riot and that's literally how that band name stuck.
Speaker 3:Thank God they misheard it. Quiet Riot, that's way better than Quite Right, yeah, quiet.
Speaker 1:Riot. Yeah, quite, right, I am Quite.
Speaker 3:Right, I know, quiet, riot right, yeah, quiet riot, yeah quite right, um, the band can?
Speaker 1:I am quite right, I know quite right. The band consisted of drummer drew forsyth joining randy and kelly garney, and for some reason, an la based photographer, kevin debrow, was hired as the league vocalist and Dubrow instantly became divisive because Randy didn't like him.
Speaker 3:I don't think he minded him that much he wasn't what he was looking for.
Speaker 1:He wanted someone darker and more brooding, like Alice Cooper, as the front man. That's what he envisioned. But Dubrow just would not go away and Randy eventually was just like all right, I like your enthusiasm, all right, let's go. And they instantly became a huge sensation in the LA music scene.
Speaker 3:They were sneering at his musical skills. Correct that. Kevin wasn't the greatest singer Right. That's what really it was about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's why they talk about him as a photographer, but he was a hell of a performer.
Speaker 3:He's a showman. I absolutely think he was one of the best Wow, especially in the glam rock era.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:I saw a documentary about Quiet Riot. Spoiler alert Kevin Dubrow died, oh wow. When did he die In like 2007-ish 11? Of a drug overdose Cocaine oh 2007,.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how did I know that you probably just finished the documentary? No I didn't Please, I'm just that good he died in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3:Nothing good happens in Vegas.
Speaker 1:Accidental cocaine overdose.
Speaker 3:I like how they say accidental. Yeah, so there's a movie that was made about the band after Kevin died trying to replace the lead singer. Oh yeah, it's great. You have to go see this. I have not seen this one Because one of the guys that they hire plays a few shows with him and he forgets the lyrics to Come On, Feel the Noise.
Speaker 1:Oh, girls Rock your Voice, get wild, wild, wild.
Speaker 3:And in the meeting afterwards they all look at the guy and they say, dude, you can't forget the lyrics to our only hit song yeah, the hell's wrong with you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so Rhodes, even though he wasn't the front man, he was the main guy in the band. Uh, musically and visually, the polka dot theme, as we can see here, uh, which is on his guitar, became like his staple. He would wear um a bow tie with polka dots on it and like a, a vest that he would keep open and have like that v.
Speaker 3:Look, he was not interested in being your run-of-the-mill guitarist. No, he related to that glam rock world.
Speaker 1:Yes, which is also what Pantera did before they ended up becoming the real Pantera. They were like glam rock guys with hairspray.
Speaker 3:So is that what they wanted at first? Do you think yeah, or they were just trying to fit in. They were just trying to fit in. That wasn't their true self yeah, exactly well, this is randy rhodes true self. Yes, glam, so it's the opposite. Yeah, but there was another similarity that you just mentioned that I thought of dime bag. What's that? The dime bag was the star, even though he was not the lead singer. Right, that's true, not?
Speaker 1:easy to do. No word was just getting out that Rhodes was just like blowing everybody off the stage like there was no one as good as him. Uh, it's been said that him and Eddie Van Halen are like very comparable on the greatest guitarist of all time. And did they have a feud? They sure did. In the 70s they developed a friendly but big rivalry, frenemies, frenemies exactly, with Van Halen. Uh, before either of them had signed a record deal, wow, van halen signed to warner brothers in 1977 and released a debut album that would achieve gold status. Quiet riots contract with sony only got their first two albums released in japan.
Speaker 3:Whoa like what the hell? Well, big in j in Japan, where that phrase comes from Better than having no fans.
Speaker 1:Well, this inability to get an American deal was getting everybody pissed off and Dubrow and Bassist Garney began to cannibalize the band. Garney said I was on a constant quest to get dubrow out of the band and get a different singer. I hated him, he hated me and we could not find any way whatsoever to get along, which caused a lot of tension in the band and it put a lot of stress on randy to try to be neutral I don't understand all the fighting, because wouldn't have.
Speaker 3:Don't you think that kevin dubrow would have been a charismatic guy?
Speaker 1:well, just taking drugs having fun but then you really start to sniff your own ass and believe your own hype and uh, yeah, believe your own bullshit. Yeah, I suppose I can see how it happens where people who are clearly more talented than you just go shut the fuck up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then you see others make it before you that have less talent, yeah.
Speaker 1:There was a huge, almost deadly breaking point of the band at this point. This is in 1978.
Speaker 3:Of Quiet Riot yes.
Speaker 1:They were recording Quiet Riot 2, and Kelly Garney got so drunk he robbed a bar and stole a bunch of liquor. He went up to Randy and was like we need to replace the vocalist. When Rhodes said no, garney drunkenly fired a handgun through the ceiling and a fight between him and Rhodes broke out what the ceiling, and a fight between him and Rhodes broke out what. Garney then ran away and came up with a plan to go across town to where DeBrow was recording the vocals for Quiet Riot 2.
Speaker 3:And then they were going to cut a hole in the floor around him and he was just going to fall into it Almost.
Speaker 1:His plan was to take that gun and go shoot him in the head.
Speaker 3:oh my, fucking god yeah he really wanted to shoot kevin dubrow and kill him.
Speaker 1:He was gonna kill him. Yeah well, he almost killed randy. They were fighting and just fucking bang.
Speaker 3:The gun goes off in the ceiling when you said deadly, I thought it was a bit of hyperbole not at all.
Speaker 1:So on his way over he was so drunk, he was speeding and swerving, and he was arrested for drunk driving before he reached the studio oh wow, yeah, well, lucky for her, kevin.
Speaker 1:Yeah, by the next year, 1979,. Randy was just like I'm sick of how much you guys are fighting. This is bullshit. You know I didn't start this band to be stressed out Like we're trying to get a deal here. Later that year, a man named Ozzy Osbourne steps up to the plate and is looking for a new guitarist. Dana Strum kept calling Randy and was like we have an opening, keep coming, audition, audition, audition. And he's like no, he's like I got a band, we're trying to work it out and Ozzy is fresh from Black Sabbath at this point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I didn't realize. I thought Ozzy was at the point where he was getting so big that he just left black sabbath. It's the complete opposite. The band was just like we're done with you because he was drinking and drugging like crazy and they just didn't want to do it anymore. So I always thought ozzy left them. They left ozzy, they dumped them. That's what I assumed too. Yeah, so ozzy's like all right, I'll go do my own thing getting a new tour together. And randy is like fine, whatever, like I just want this guy to stop, brings his guitar and sets up his amp and it's just warming up in the other room, knowing that ozzy's, like you know, getting ready or whatever. And through the wall ozzy was like what the fuck is that? Oh my god. He didn't know if he was like too drunk and he was hearing it better than it really was or what, but he was having a vision he literally he was in his ears he was just warming up and Ozzy came out and was like that was the best thing I ever heard.
Speaker 3:You're hired. Or it was more like oh my God, that's the best thing I ever heard. You got a bat. You're hired, sharon. And Randy was freaked out because he was just like you didn't even hear my stuff yet I was just warming up.
Speaker 1:Andy was like freaked out because he was just like you, didn't even hear my stuff yet I was just warming up, which is insane that his warm up is better than anybody else's actual audition.
Speaker 3:How amazing would that be. You show up for an audition and you just start going Okay, let me start. And then they say wait, stop the presses. You got it, kid, we're signing you to a six picture deal yeah, so life changes immediately.
Speaker 1:He's no longer you know having to be stressed out by a quiet riot and how perfect for ozzy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he starting this solo endeavor. And then you come across the greatest guitarist in the world. Yeah, yeah, sure, let's link up. Come on down, come on, feel the noise with me, yeah.
Speaker 1:Osbourne was telling the band that he recently met one of the best guitarists in Los Angeles and his name's Randy Rhodes. He's going to be running around with them, uh. The new group's management intended to keep the lineup all british, uh, and was reluctant to hire an unknown american, but manager don arden eventually relented. Who is don arden, by the way?
Speaker 3:a producer, yes, and a father of sharon osborne.
Speaker 1:Did you know that I did? I'm like how the fuck it's all nepotism I know I thought sharon was like this unknown woman that was in the crowd, just like rocky and adrian nope, and she was homely back in the 80s, yeah.
Speaker 3:So it was like a nice story, like oh, that's sweet, as he could have been with all these other groupies and he picks this nice lady, yeah daddy was a record producer. I had no idea until this crazy daddy wasn't the rolling stone no he owned rolling stone yeah and he was married to someone else at the time. Ozzy, oh, was he at this point? They started out as an affair, ooh, and then it got more serious.
Speaker 1:Hey, well, daddy's paying the bills.
Speaker 3:It better get serious, and I also heard a tasty rumor that one night, after some drinks, randy Rhoes and sharon made out they had a shag. Not a shag, just a couple of smooches, wow, well. Well, you know how things get on tour it's incestuous sex, drugs and rock and roll. That's right, um. And by the way, another true story about Sharon she had sex with Jay Leno. No, I swear to God, this Alejandro fake fact is coming back again.
Speaker 3:I know it sounds weird. Why would I just make this up? Because you do shit like that. It's a true story. Google it. Wow, Everyone listening. Just write it down.
Speaker 1:Google it later just imagine the noises coming out of that room. Oh, you like that?
Speaker 3:oh yeah, jay, little lower please. What right here is this it? Hey, jay. Hey kevin, you see this g spot. Did you hear about this? I'm about to come, I'm flapping her ass. You see this? I can't believe.
Speaker 1:It smells like bleach oh well, randy didn't make it easy to be hired either, which is shows that they really, really wanted him. Um, he showed up to heathrow airport, was turned away because he didn't have the necessary work permit to actually go there and start working as a musician, which he should have been on top of. Yes, um, they threw him in a holding cell and handcuffed him, put him back on a plane to the us and they had to really work it out, getting the paperwork done over the next couple weeks, um, because they needed to start going on the road. Yeah, uh, and rehearsing um bull rush cottage was, um a rehearsal space back in london. Um, and it was there that roads lived with Osborne and his then wife, thelma. That's right, so Ozzy had two other kids, you mean besides that, kelly and Jack.
Speaker 3:Besides Kelly and Jack, yeah, well, there was one that refused to appear on the reality show. I knew there was a third one that just didn't want any part of the spotlight. What the amy? I believe amy osborne. Jessica elliot kingsley lewis osborne gee, where was their reality show? He could have had a couple going at the same time.
Speaker 1:The uk version, the osbornes too, yeah uh, on his wikipedia it says he has five, including amy, kelly and jack. So there's, yeah, the other two that he had with them and then the other two listed.
Speaker 3:That's crazy the other two that he never talks to. He even started a podcast with kelly and jack. Yeah, sharon, that's why I'm so. What about the other kids? Fuck, where's their podcast? Sheesh, wow, um.
Speaker 1:They're probably the grip osborne stated in his autobiography that he didn't understand why a musician as talented as roads would want to get involved with a quote bloated alcoholic wreck like himself so he was self deprecating yeah, and that's why they were trying so hard to make sure his paperwork got cleared. And you know we're stealing him from another band and really it wasn't easy for them to get him and, uh, they wanted to make it work because they knew how talented he was.
Speaker 3:Because on some level Quiet Riot is not fully established yet. So perhaps in Randy's mind he'd rather be with an original band and come up with them Right, Rather than join forces with an already established entertainer like Ozzy. Yeah, and he was not a fan of Black Sabbath.
Speaker 1:Randy wasn't. No, oh, wow.
Speaker 3:Not at all, holy shit, which is insane if you think about it. Yeah, usually they hire the person. That is like groveling at their feet, like, oh my god, you are the best?
Speaker 1:yeah, because then you can pay him less.
Speaker 3:He's just happy to be there because he didn't like to play Black Sabbath songs on tour.
Speaker 1:So they were off and running man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, crazy Train is a great song to kickstart it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which I always thought Crazy Train was Sabbath, sabbath.
Speaker 3:Same, it's not. It's not. Wow, it's Ozzy Osbourne.
Speaker 1:Okay, so that is all, randy Rhodes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, wow. By the way, sharon Osbourne revealed the Jay Leno story on the Talk. Yeah, I see the article here. They had one of those gimmicky episodes where everyone tells a secret. Oh, and that was hers Next up on the Yuck.
Speaker 1:How can you show your face after?
Speaker 3:that Boy. I had sex with Jay Leno, who wants to imagine that we already did Okay. So where are we? Crazy train. We're on a crazy train.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're on a crazy train out of Sharon Osbourne's ass and going back to the band. Pretty insane that Sharon was there. She would always go on tour with them. Um, I don't know exactly when. I guess I'll look it up now, because I didn't realize there was such drama with sharon and thelma.
Speaker 3:It makes sense, though, if you think about it, she's the manager, so they're together all the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and for all the things that usually the spouse isn't a part of the crazy train of shows and touring and parties and yeah, so Thelma and Ozzy had Jessica and Louis, and they adopted Elliot Kingsley, which is Thelma's five-year-old son from a previous relationship, who was born in 66. So he really has six kids, because he has Amy, jack and Kelly and Elliot, louis and Jessica, who I don't know if anyone's ever heard of. I certainly haven't. No, their divorce was in 1982, which is a year we're heading to right now anyway. So let's get into it Yay, yay, yay.
Speaker 1:Ozzy admitted that his struggle with alcohol and substance abuse was the main reason behind their separation. But it doesn't seem just that. It seems that also Sharon Osbourne, being on the tour bus with them all the time Throwing herself at him, may have had something to do with it.
Speaker 3:Getting closer to 1982, 1981, we have a clip here of Mr Randy Rhodes Randy on behalf of the over half million readers of Guitar Player Magazine in the US and in 70 countries throughout the world, I'd like to present you with the 1981 Best New Talent Award. Congratulations, thank you.
Speaker 2:Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh ooh.
Speaker 3:Give him a kiss, ozzy. Oh, there's Sharon. I've got a lot of work to do and it makes you realize there's a lot of responsibility and this tour.
Speaker 2:I want to really get myself together and work harder, you know, because I'm really proud and honored and I don't want to stop here, you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, why stop there? You don't stop there. The way Sharon was throwing smooches on him, she looks like Susan.
Speaker 1:Boyle, exactly like Susan Boyle. Oh, that's not a compliment. No, it's not, she did level up.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, when she got her face carved up, yeah she got a bit of lipo, got some plastic surgery, got a couple more hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1:Got a giant Boston-based chin up her ass.
Speaker 3:That was before, though How's that feel. That was the 70s. Oh, that was the 70s.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is post-Jay Leno. Oh, so she was banging him before. He was even really Jay Leno, he was just a guy with a chin and a microphone.
Speaker 3:Yep. And a lot less cars, but seeing her in that clip with him, I wonder if they had threesomes. Ugh, maybe I'm bringing up a lot of gross stuff.
Speaker 1:What does that room smell? Like Not good.
Speaker 3:War pigs yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh boy, all right, let's see Ozzy live with Randy. Yeah, oh boy, all right, let's see Ozzy live with Randy. Ooh, see him shred with that customized polka dot guitar.
Speaker 3:Oh hell yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a little, mr Crowley, for you.
Speaker 3:They had a great rapport with each other. You can tell from that clip oh yeah, Much more you know, playful.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And yet could deliver. Yeah, exactly yeah, you could feel that they have more going on than quiet riot did with the bro for sure they have more than just come feel the noise, which, by the way, quiet ride, finally blew up in the early 80s with metal health. The album, yeah, and come on, feel the noise. But did you know that they didn't even write that song? Really, that was from slade in 1973. Oh wow, it was a cover I did not know that yeah, wow. So now do you think even less of kevin dubrow?
Speaker 1:yes, oh my goodness. Well, all the success is happening it's a successful time.
Speaker 3:It's a good time to be alive. Yes, if you're a guitar virtuoso yeah, absolutely, things are looking up.
Speaker 1:You're on tour with, you know, one of the biggest rock names of all time. You're a rock god yourself. I have a question though I might have an answer.
Speaker 3:Was ozzy acting better in this time?
Speaker 1:no, he, he didn't tone it down at all. No, and randy um, the last thing he ever said to him was you're gonna kill yourself.
Speaker 3:Before he got off the bus I guess I was just thinking that to achieve all these milestones you'd have to be somewhat with it, Nope?
Speaker 1:Nope, I mean Ozzy is known for being that guy where he stumbles out and, you know, still puts on a good show, but behind the scenes he's a goddamn wreck.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that is exactly what he's known for.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And portrayed as because in that movie I've told you about before decline of western civilization, part two yeah which is about heavy metal. Um, what's her name? The penelope spheras, who directed wayne's world. She was the director of this documentary and she interviews ozzy in it and he's talking to her in his kitchen and then she cuts to a close-up of his hand pouring orange juice into a glass, and then the hand starts shaking like this oh yeah, and the orange juice goes all over the counter.
Speaker 3:I've seen that yeah she later admitted that that was fake. Oh, it was inserted later. Oh, jesus, but that tells you what his public persona was. Yeah, that they wanted to do that, because everyone's expecting that from ozzy right, yeah, I mean ozzy.
Speaker 1:He went into a record label and bit the head off a bat. He was just out of his mind. He did that on stage.
Speaker 3:I thought no, it was in uh executive's office that might have been a dove in the executive's off executive office, let me see, but he did it other times. I believe the bat, though, was on stage, and randy rhodes was not a fan of those kind of antics oh, this was in concert on uh on the road in des moines.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the bat was. He thought it was a rubber bat. I picked it up, put it in my mouth, crunched down bit into bit into it, being the clown that I am, In Des Moines it was yeah, All right.
Speaker 3:So in Wisconsin the bat bites you.
Speaker 1:And in Iowa you bite the bat Words and photos emerged saying that he'd bitten the heads off of two white doves at the CBS sales sales convention in los angeles. The plan had been for ozzy to give a speech of thanks to his audience and then release three symbolic doves at peace, but he ate two of them. Okay, what?
Speaker 3:an animal, wow, and randy absolutely hated that. Yeah, I wouldn't be, he just wanted to be glam rock now.
Speaker 1:Let's play some fucking music, put some hairspray in our hair and have a good time. You don't?
Speaker 3:need to kill birds or rodents with wings uh, yeah.
Speaker 1:So, ozzy, like you were asking, he was drinking heavily. He even um fired the entire band after a show. Well, he was shit-faced, had no memory of doing it.
Speaker 1:Uh, so they just kept on playing on the road god almighty, yeah uh, he kept saying to randy that frank zappa and gary moore were going to replace him on the road and was just fucking with him at this point. It's like dude, you begged for him to come to your band and he's there and now you're treating him like shit. It's crazy. So they're going on the road. They played Thursday, march 18, 1982 at the Knoxville Civic Coliseum. The next day the band was scheduled to play the Rock Super Bowl, which is a festival in Orlando, florida. That was happening for quite some time in the 70s and 80s.
Speaker 3:What is it about? It has nothing to do with football, right? No?
Speaker 1:It's literally just the name of a festival, like when we were a young festival or Woodstock or whatever.
Speaker 1:It's not like the Rock putting on a football game, it was just the Rock Super Bowl. And his final conversation Osborne remembers having with Randy was Randy saying to him you'll kill yourself, you know, one of these days. And then he got off the bus. Why did he get off the bus? After driving much of the night, the tour bus stopped at the Flying Baron Estates in Leesburg, florida, to fix a malfunctioning air conditioner While Osborne remained asleep. You'd want?
Speaker 3:that in Florida.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Very humid hot.
Speaker 1:Extremely humid. It's so gross. On the property owned by the Calhoun brothers there was an airstrip with helicopters and small planes. Without permission, the tour bus driver and private pilot, andrew Aycock, took a single-engine Beechcraft F-35 plane registered to Mike Parton and just stole it and went up for a flight. On the first flight, aycock took keyboardist Don Airy and tour manager Jake Duncan with him as passengers. Duncan later revealed that Aycock buzzed the bus in an attempt to wake up the drummer Tommy Aldridge. The group then landed. The second flight had Rhodes. What a lunatic, yeah. Second flight had Randy Rhodes and makeup artist and wardrobe girl Rachel Youngblood on the flight. Rhodes had tried to get the bassistblood on the flight. Rhodes had tried to get the bassist Rudy Zarzo on the flight and Zarzo was like hell. No, I'm not going on that fucking thing, and neither should you.
Speaker 3:Smart, it's called self-preservation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but the only reason Randy did is because he knew that Rachel Youngblood had a really bad heart condition. So ACOC was like listen, I know about her condition too. I'm not gonna do that again. I just want it to be a nice, you know flight. We'll go up, take some pictures and just come down and land and randy was like all right, fine so he thought that because she was joining them, it was just gonna be a nice tranquil ride yeah, why didn't the first two guys that took the ride warn anybody?
Speaker 3:You'd think they would be like that was awful, you asshole. You almost killed us. Well, they were laughing. Oh, they thought it was funny to clip the bus and almost die.
Speaker 1:Well, they didn't clip it, they just went near it.
Speaker 3:Well, they went near enough to rattle it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, during the second flight, more attempts were made to buzz the tour bus.
Speaker 3:Oh, buzz, that's just flying over it. Yes, okay.
Speaker 1:He succeeded in making two close passes but botched the third attempt At 10 am. After being in the air for about five minutes, one of the plane's wings clipped the top of the tour bus, breaking the wing into two parts, sending the plane spiraling. The initial impact with the bus caused Rhodes and Youngblood's heads to crash through the plane's windshield. The plane then severed the top of a pine tree and crashed into the garage of a nearby mansion, bursting into flames. Randy Aycock and Youngblood, ages 25, 36, and 58, respectively, were all killed instantly. All three bodies were burned beyond recognition and Rhodes was identified by his jewelry. He was that badly burned, according to Sharon Osbourne, who was asleep on the bus and awoken by the crash, said they were all in bits. It was just body parts everywhere.
Speaker 3:Like the Twilight Zone.
Speaker 1:Sounds like worse.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah.
Speaker 1:The band's keyboardist, don Airy, was the only member of the band to witness the crash. In his account he reported a struggle between Rhodes and Aycock in the cockpit seconds before the crash. So he thinks that he knew the uh tour bus driver was fucking around and wanted him to stop and so he was like fighting for the control of the plane. Randy was yeah, and so uh don airy truly believes that had he not done that, that more people would have been dead because he would have been even lower because he saw them struggling for control of the plane. Also could be that that struggle is what caused them to clip the fucking tour bus right so it's hard to say could have just been a buzzing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, because he was taking pictures with his own camera. He had like a telephoto lens and he could see through the lens that there was a struggle going on board. The wings were rapidly tipping from side to side and at one point the plane was almost completely sideways, no more than six feet off the ground. That's when I put down my camera and saw the plane right in front of me. I quickly crouched to avoid getting hit and looked over my shoulder and watched it clip the bus, crash into into the tree and explode on impact into the garage. Could?
Speaker 3:you imagine being an eyewitness to that, and people you know. Terror, oh my God. And Randy Rhoads, no less. Yeah, a talent that is just becoming itself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and all they could see was the manager came out, Jake Duncan, who was on the first flight. He was in the fetal position just screaming they're gone, they're gone.
Speaker 3:And in his head he's thinking that could have been him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, tommy Aldridge grabbed a fire extinguisher from the bus and ran towards the crash site in an attempt to put out the fire, but it was just way too big. Yeah, the entire house burnt down. One of the guys ran in and to see if anybody was inside the house, and it was just one like 80 something year old man and he was deaf, so he didn't know what happened. He felt like a big oh and he's looking and then all of a sudden there's this stranger in his house screaming at him to get the fuck out, and there's smoke just billowing through the house. He's like that, that poor guy. He's like I don't know sign language. Eventually someone was able to communicate to him what happened, but he's like. I feel so bad for him that that happened on his property and to his house and he didn't comprehend what was actually happening until way later. And lucky that he didn't die as well. Yeah, exactly, luckily they went into the house to try to find somebody.
Speaker 3:How terrifying luckily they went into the house to try to find somebody. How terrifying and luckily the front door was open and the moment that old man finally understood oh god, and where was the pilot sleeping?
Speaker 1:um, the actual owner of the plane. Yeah, this was on a property that. Oh, the plane was just there. Every house had a plane outside of it. Yeah, but how did they get the keys? Oh, I think they just left them inside. Yeah, they didn't think anyone would just come by and be a dumbass and the old honor wild ride?
Speaker 3:yeah, the old honor system. Yeah, this is why you need to hide the keys.
Speaker 1:Don't let idiots near your plane yeah, I mean the, the, the guy that didn't want to go on the flight. What was his name? Rudy Sarzo. He knew that the bus driver, that dude Aycock, had been up doing cocaine all night too and drinking Like they didn't even like that. He was driving the tour bus, Never mind get on a flight with him. Right, they were like finally we're here, we're safe.
Speaker 3:Don't fuck with this guy anymore. Let him sleep. Uh-huh, didn't work. There are characters like that that are completely out of control. They're irritating and you know they don't have a good ending, right. It's just a shame that they take others with them. Yeah, and remind me sharon and ozzy, you said, were in a nearby cabin. They were on the bus, so they were on the bus that the plane was buzzing over, yeah, so they could have been killed easily oh, absolutely If the plane had crashed right into the bus instead of just clipping it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if the plane, if the wing hit it like another foot lower, it would have taken more of the plane down immediately instead of making it go up.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because they like barely clipped it.
Speaker 3:Ah, but still, but still. That's not much, that's really not much space in the scheme of things when it comes to an airplane.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and especially if you're laying on the top bunk. It destroyed the top where it hit, so it could have easily killed someone just from that. But they were sleeping at the time and they wake up to that yeah, sarzo was making tea because they woke him up to do the plane plane ride with them and he was like no. And then he got up and was having his tea, said he was pouring milk into his tea and it felt like the tour bus exploded and he had no idea what happened.
Speaker 1:he shit his pants and ran out yeah and that's when he saw uh on the grass outside just rocking back and forth in the fetal position saying they're gone, they're gone.
Speaker 3:Because if you were in the bus and woke up to that, I remember a couple summers ago, when there was an earthquake here, I woke up in the middle of the night to all the shaking and rumbling and I was absolutely terrified. Yeah, all the shaking and rumbling and I was absolutely terrified. Yeah, imagine it's not just an earthquake that goes away within seconds. Imagine it actually is something completely terrifying.
Speaker 1:Just a huge explosion.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Right over your head. Yeah, Ozzy said. Uh, he was awoken by a loud explosion. He immediately thought that they'd hit a vehicle on the road. Uh, he got out of bed screaming to hit a vehicle on the road. He got out of bed screaming to Sharon get off the bus. Meanwhile she was screaming at everyone to get off the bus too. After getting out of the bus, I saw a plane had crashed. I didn't know who was on the plane. When we realized that our people were on the plane, I found it very difficult to get assistance from anyone to help. In fact, it took. It took, he says, almost a half hour before anyone arrived. It was actually over two hours shut up before first responders got there how much in the middle?
Speaker 1:of nowhere was this very much in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 1:It was on like acres and acres by itself and the closest um people were too far away and they didn't have a phone, which is why they all had planes in their yeah driveways so it was, you know, 9, 10 in the morning and that's why, um, it took people seeing the smoke going up in the air to call 9-1-1 and be like I think something happened over there and they're like, all right, we'll get around to it finally showed up. They didn't realize there was a plane crash with three people dead in an entire mansion burning to the ground. Uh, randy rhodes girlfriend jody raskin was in her car when she recalled hearing a block of songs from blizzard of oz on the radio before the dj announced the accident and the news that rhodes was killed. That's to be crazy, figure out.
Speaker 3:Like oh cool, they're playing crazy train.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's all exciting to hear and then they come on saying he's dead, like that's your partner. That's crazy. She said she was way too distraught to continue driving, had to pull over.
Speaker 3:That's so unimaginable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when Eddie Van Halen learned about the crash, he said that the pilot had to have been fucked up. When it happened In a 1982 radio interview, he was saying you don't fly that low and smash into a crew bus and then hit the house. He said the pilot was jerking off. That's just plain stupidity. I feel so sorry for Randy. That's exactly what it was.
Speaker 3:It wasn't even a pilot error. The guy was doing that on purpose.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a pilot error you could forgive right exactly but he just thinks he's fucking hilarious god, I hate those kind of people the british rock singer Ozzy Osbourne, formerly with the group Black Sabbath, escaped injury when a plane made two low passes over the house in Florida where he was staying with his present band and then crashed into it, but the group's lead guitarist and make-up artist were killed. Osbourne, who's from Birmingham, has achieved notoriety through outrageous stage antics, including biting the heads off birds. Keith Hendel reports.
Speaker 4:A private plane buzzed the house in Leesburg, florida, where the group was staying On the third pass. The pilot clipped their tour bus parked outside and ploughed into the house, killing the group's lead guitarist, randall Rhodes, and the make-up artist, rachel Youngblood. He also killed himself. Ozzy Osbourne was sitting in the bus at the time but somehow survived unhurt. All the other members of the group also escaped, even though petrol from the wrecked plane started a fierce fire and gutted the house.
Speaker 1:Crazy.
Speaker 3:Somehow Leesburg Florida rolled off the tongue well in British.
Speaker 1:Leesburg Osborne admitted that Aycock had been doing cocaine all night prior to the crash. It was confirmed that after autopsy he tested positive for cocaine, which I think is crazy, Like how can you be burnt that much and still have any trace of anything on?
Speaker 3:you. I guess we learned that cocaine is very durable, I guess, so inflammable uh rhodes toxicology test.
Speaker 1:Toxicology test revealed only nicotine uh. The ntsb investigation determined that acock's aviation medical certificate had expired and it was reported. Listen to this. The most avoidable part of this thing is acock had been the pilot in another fatal crash in the united arab emirates six years earlier. He killed somebody as a pilot a helicopter pilot wow sharon had known about the crash but didn't inform anyone else on the tour.
Speaker 1:Sharon, sharon, sharon but she didn't know he was going to jump into a plane I mean, it doesn't matter if he's on a plane or train or an automobile, that's right. I don't care if he's with john candy all night he, uh, yeah.
Speaker 1:In the moments after the crash he started screaming at the tour manager for allowing their people on a plane with a pilot who'd been using drugs all night, telling him don't you know? That man had already killed one of the calhoun's kids in a helicopter crash. So the people that owned the very property that they're staying on killed one of their kids, like why would you even bring that guy to one of their properties?
Speaker 3:huh that's very weird, yeah not good, not good.
Speaker 1:uh, the first lutheran church in burbank, california, is where randy had his funeral and the pallbearers were ozzy osbourne, aldridge sarzo and kevin debrow, if you can imagine that, wow.
Speaker 3:That's pretty heavy, yep. Not the coffin, just the weight of the story and relationship.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was buried at Mountain View Cemetery in San Bernardino, california, and on his tomb has been written an inspiration for all young people. Can you believe that he was only 25 years old when he?
Speaker 3:passed away same age as tupac.
Speaker 1:It's crazy, we have to start a 25 club, yeah but I mean, his legacy is still alive and, like I said, he's up there with you. Know, know people arguing in bars about either Randy Rhodes or Eddie Van Halen being the best guitarist of all time.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:So it's you know.
Speaker 3:Very much so, yeah, and for someone that is not really affiliated with any one famous band.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't realize about quiet riot and randy rhodes. I was like holy shit.
Speaker 3:Randy rhodes is definitely a name that most everyone knows.
Speaker 1:That's familiar with classic rock yeah he's really, it's synonymous right guitar virtuoso yeah it's just so goddamn sad and frustrating that that's how it had to well because this is so needless, you know yeah just because some dumb fuck high on cocaine thinks oh, we should be funny and wake him up. Yeah, it's like you already did it four times. Why are you gonna do it the fifth time?
Speaker 1:but also you have to question why anyone would get in the plane with them like I said, the only reason he was coaxed on was because, you know, the woman that was going on with them, the makeup and wardrobe lady, had a bad heart and the guy was like listen, I know she has a bad heart. We're going to go up there and go around the property a couple times, we're just going up for a little fun.
Speaker 3:That's not sufficient for me. Yeah, so if the lady with a bad heart jumped off a bridge, then Randy Rhodes would too.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:The golden gate. It's not a good reason to go up in a dangerous plane, I know, but I could see how you could be like okay, I trust you.
Speaker 1:Never. In fact, I'm never getting in any private plane or helicopter. Helicopters definitely not Planes. I could get in a private plane no. Have fun. Yeah, I've gone skydiving a few times.
Speaker 3:Say hi to JFK Jr. Yeah, and you're crazy for going skydiving after your mom's story.
Speaker 1:I went before my mom's story. She went after me. I haven't been since then.
Speaker 3:We talked about on a previous episode. Kyle's mom had a skydiving instructor and then she went skydiving Two weeks later. Two weeks later, her instructor died in a skydiving accident.
Speaker 1:With the person he had strapped to his back.
Speaker 3:Never Yikes, never, ever, ever. Diving accident with the person he had strapped to his back. Never yikes, never, ever, ever.
Speaker 1:yeah, and that brings us to final thoughts don't get into planes with people who have been doing cocaine all night if their nose is covered in white stuff, go the other way.
Speaker 3:Yeah, run if they.
Speaker 1:If someone is all tweaked out saying you want to see something cool, say no yeah, also, if you know that someone is responsible for piloting another person to death, I don't care if it's in another country, don't allow them to drive or pilot you in any way, shape or form. That's the other thing.
Speaker 3:That's awful Come on. Sharon, there should have been better quality control there, majorly. It's almost too bizarre to fathom why you would have that person in your circle. You want the best Van Halen. They did that brown M&M thing for a reason Because if they saw one brown M&M in that ball, they knew that there were corners that were cut.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:It goes for everything, not just the stage show. For the tour bus, for traveling, you have to be safe.
Speaker 1:You do. You got to make sure everyone's taken care of. The road's dangerous enough, you don't have to make it even more.
Speaker 3:The Randy Road's dangerous enough, yeah. But yeah, rest in peace they should have a Ben and Jerry flavor. Randy Road's, Rocky Randy Road's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right, I'll work. Jerry flavor, randy Rhodes, rocky.
Speaker 1:Randy Rhodes. Yeah, all right, I'll work on it. Randy Rocky.
Speaker 2:Rhodes.
Speaker 1:You've got mail From Tony Tomato Blue. That said, I was up and down back and forth with my feelings on your Farrah Fawcett MJ episode. However, when Kyle got teary-eyed over Paris Jackson, I loved it. The jokes about MJ and the kids were rough, but I laughed some. Thank you. We got a few out there. Well, thanks for sticking with us Tony. Yeah, you know, you have an MJ episode.
Speaker 1:There's going to be some jokes to be to be had yeah, and there's also going to be controversy yeah because some people think one thing and other people think another thing exactly, and we're not all monsters here, okay, no, sometimes we can tear up a little bit and we're all human.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm tearing up right now. Yeah, I'm not, but I should try that because you got a lot of goodwill from that yeah, you know it's just being human man.
Speaker 1:It is, we're all human. Tell them that it's human nature.
Speaker 3:Shannon called the episode a masterpiece whoa, where'd you say that?
Speaker 3:on instagram oh shit, I did not see that and then we're getting some good words on youtube as well. Oh, very nice. Another person said kyle almost crying, totally got me to cry. Oh, that was happy's funhouse. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And someone reminded us, ian O'Neill commented and then Billy Mays died, which is correct. Yeah, just a few days later Billy Mays was the. You know, they say deaths come in threes, but sometimes it's just a bunch. Yeah, like a bunch of coconuts on merv griffin's back lovely bunch of coconuts okay, well, we had a good time here, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3:Thanks for joining us again. Go listen to some ozzy. Yeah, celebrate the sound of randy rhodes absolutely. And all roads lead to this podcast. Death and entertainment yes.
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