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The Queen's Final Bow: Selena's Tragic Legacy (Episode 158)
In the pantheon of music legends whose voices were silenced too soon, Selena Quintanilla's story stands out not just as a tragedy, but as an American dream interrupted. Born to a struggling family in Texas, Selena transformed from a child performer singing in her family's failing restaurant to the undisputed Queen of Tejano music – shattering records, breaking barriers, and creating a cultural phenomenon that transcended musical genres.
What makes Selena's journey so compelling is how her extraordinary talent was matched by remarkable business acumen. By 23, she wasn't just dominating charts and winning Grammys – she was building a multi-million dollar empire spanning music, fashion, and beauty. Her boutiques "Selena Etc." were generating over $5 million, her concerts sold out stadiums, and she was on the cusp of a breakthrough English-language album that would have certainly catapulted her to global superstardom.
The devastating irony of Selena's story lies in how her greatest strengths – her trust, loyalty, and generous spirit – created the circumstances for her downfall. Yolanda Saldivar, a seemingly devoted fan who became Selena's close friend and business associate, methodically exploited that trust. When confronted about embezzling nearly $30,000 from Selena's fan club and boutiques, Saldivar responded not with remorse but with violence, ending a brilliant life and career that had only begun to realize its potential.
Looking back at what Selena accomplished in just 23 years, we can only imagine what her legacy might have become. Her posthumous crossover album "Dreaming of You" debuted at #1 on the Billboard 200, confirming what those close to her already knew – Selena wasn't just going to cross over to mainstream success; she was poised to redefine it entirely. Her story reminds us how fragile life can be, how carefully we must guard our trust, and how a voice silenced too soon can still echo powerfully across generations.
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She was the queen of Tejano music, with a voice so powerful it could shatter glass, if the glass wasn't already crying at the sheer beauty of it. Selena Quintanilla From selling out arenas to selling out her own fan club, selena's life had it all Jealousy, betrayal and a whole lot of awkward family dinners. But it's not just the music we're talking about. We're diving into the good, the bad and the oh-hell-no parts of Selena's rise to fame. Who was the real villain? Hint, this time, it wasn't the music industry. Get ready for a rollercoaster of fame, fashion and friendly fire. Selena's life it's iconic, it's incredible and it might just make you rethink your own best friend situation. Tune in for the full story, because you'll never hear a legend quite like this again. That's today on Death in Entertainment.
Speaker 2:Live from Los Angeles 911,. What is your emergency here in Hollywood now? Two counts of murder. Injury and death.
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Speaker 1:Greetings Ditto Universe. Hi, what up? What's going on? Everybody? My name's Kyle Plouffe.
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Speaker 5:And I'm Alejandro Dowling.
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Speaker 1:The life and tragic murder of Selena. Yeah, this is a tearjerker, but remember, we are a celebrity death and true crime comedy podcast. So, even though this is very sad, we're going to have some fun and have some laughs along the way.
Speaker 4:Mostly making fun of Yolanda, yeah that piece of garbage. My God.
Speaker 5:But if it's not your thing, you can turn that dial. Yes, except don't turn the dial. Don't do it Because you don't want to miss this.
Speaker 4:Go listen to OK Bud.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then come back, you'll be back, and with that, let's all right. Selena quintanilla great job, nailed it beautiful. She's known worldwide as selena was born on april 16, 1971 in Freeport, texas. It just seems too close Like she was not much older than us.
Speaker 5:No, and she has a birthday very similar to mine.
Speaker 4:And I don't know math very well, but I do know I was born in 1981 and I'm 43. So she would only be 53 years old. Yes, still young.
Speaker 1:Yep. So Freeport, texas, it's on the east-southeast border, it's southeast Texas, it's right on the Gulf, Yep. Yep, the family lived a little bit more inland. After she was born they went to Lake Jackson, texas, and Lake Jackson is located greater Houston metropolitan area. Okay, and in the 70s there was only 13,000 people, today there's 28,000. So is that because of Selena lived there? Perhaps we don't know?
Speaker 1:Maybe, but still a relatively small town yeah very In 1942, Lake Jackson was actually first developed as a they call it a planned community, because a company was coming to town and they were building around the company. That company would end up being the Dow Chemical Company. Oh God, Great that company would end up being the Dow Chemical Company.
Speaker 4:Oh God, great, that's just fantastic. So what do you do for a living? You know what I do for a living? The same thing you do. That's why we're neighbors in the same house. That looks the exact same, exactly.
Speaker 1:And so he pretty much popped up all these different towns and his kids popped up these different towns across the country, being like we're going to be the future with plastics and safe chemicals. Sadly, you're correct, yeah, but what they really did was they did do that stuff, but they also had contracts with the government making mustard gas, napalm, agent Orange and not government related, but also breast implants, and all of those ventures killed people.
Speaker 4:Well, some better than others. I would much rather die by being smothered by breast implant. That's true Than mustard. What am I?
Speaker 5:a hot dog, hey those company towns are always so eerie. We have one in Wisconsin Kohler.
Speaker 4:There's Kohler and then there's a town called Germantown. Have you been to Germantown? Yes, it is straight. Everything has the same facade, even the McDonald's and Subway. You can't even have unique businesses such as fast food chains. Wow, it's real weird.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, and it's just weird to have a place where everybody works at this. It's an ecosystem. It is when everything revolves around the moneymaker.
Speaker 4:And it's very Stepford Wives. Yes, and if you make fun of Kohler, you are gonna die, yeah, from 1957 to 1970,.
Speaker 1:Her father was actually a musician and he played in a band called Los Dinos. Oh, spanish for the boys.
Speaker 4:Nice.
Speaker 1:And they played Tejano music. And Tejano music it sounded familiar to me, just like the term, but I didn't really know what it was. It's exclusively American-Mexican, so, like it, really it prides itself on being American as well. It was born in Texas, although it has influences from Mexico and other Latin American countries.
Speaker 5:Like Tex-Mex food. It's the nacho fries.
Speaker 4:I'll tap my toe to that. Eventually lose it because of diabetes, but I'll tap my toe to that.
Speaker 1:So he taught his children to sing and play instruments and really wanted Selena to sing in Spanish. She wanted to sing in English because she grew up in America, but he was like you will speak Spanish.
Speaker 4:What a mind, fuck for her. And then she goes outside. They're like speak English. And then inside goes outside they're like speak English, and then inside she's like you'll speak Spanish.
Speaker 5:Oh my, God, and was it because he wanted her to find her roots? Or was it because it was more marketable to sing in Spanish?
Speaker 1:I think he wanted you to think it was option one, but it was option two. Okay, by the late 60s, his band, the Los Dinos. Their popularity was fading and their record sales were declining. Abraham, which is her father's name. He had a wife and two children to support, so he decided to prioritize their financial well-being and he took a job where? At the Dow Chemical Plant.
Speaker 4:Of course.
Speaker 5:Putting his music career on hold to focus on providing for his family and slowly killing the planet? Yeah, probably himself.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm. When he had enough of that, he was like I want to start my own business. So he saved up some money and opened up Papagayos Papagayos, which is parrots in English Papa.
Speaker 4:Parrots.
Speaker 1:Papa Parrots. What are they doing there Talking? There was a Tex-Mexx. There was a tex-mex restaurant owned and operated by selena's father and they fought and scraped to stay open. During the 1970s which, if you could remember, before we were born, uh, so we might not remember there was an energy crisis, and that affects texas a lot I remember it, I was stressed out.
Speaker 4:They're an oil town, so people weren't enjoying the guacamole, I mean, even in an energy crisis. You want a nice quesadilla?
Speaker 5:Yeah, was that coinciding with the gas crisis?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so in 1973, there was an oil embargo and Arab members of OPEC, which is the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries. They retaliated against the US because the US decided to resupply the Israeli military during the Yom Kippur War and they imposed the oil embargo.
Speaker 4:Well, all that's done now.
Speaker 1:Don't worry about it. Yeah, don't even think about that. The embargo and subsequent production cuts led to a dramatic increase in oil prices, quadrupling the price of a barrel from $2.90 to $11.65.
Speaker 4:Oh, are you trying to say this restaurant was oily.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 4:It was a lot of deep fried goodness and that raised the prices. Yes, oh man. Oh, it's crazy. That's an unforeseen consequence of this embargo. Yes, gonna fuck with the Tostitos.
Speaker 1:So they made it through the 70s and then, right as the 80s were starting, there was an oil glut. So they went from having a deficit to a complete glut, which you think is like to a layman. You're like oh my god, we have too much oil. There's the we're, we're in the gold baby sounds great, we're drowning in it yeah, I think he needs to rename his band glut of oil.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oil glut it's a great thing only if you're the owner of an oil company, because then you can just go great, I don't need labor for a while. You're fired, you're fired, you're fired, you're fired. So everyone in the town that isn't working at the chemical plant gets fired, and even people from the chemical plant which relies on petroleum that comes from oil. Everybody's done. They have to file for bankruptcy. Papagayo's is gone.
Speaker 4:Just the doors open. A bunch of people with three arms, 12 toes, four eyeballs walk out. Help me Looking like they just got run over by a car in RoboCop.
Speaker 1:So this place Papagayo's was actually. It was great for them because during those years her father wanted them to entertain the diners that were there, so they were always playing music for everyone, and so after Papagayo's got shut down, they went down the drain. The family declared bankruptcy and they were evicted from their home.
Speaker 5:Oh my God, it gets worse and worse.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's sad, but they did not want their hard work to be in vain. Selena and her parents and her siblings dusted themselves off, remembered who the hell they were and moved to corpus christi. They squeezed the oil out of their shirts corpus christi yes, they went to corpus christi, texas, where Selena would then front the family band now being branded as Selena y Los Dinos.
Speaker 5:Wow, the Dinos are back in town.
Speaker 1:They return.
Speaker 4:So it's Selena and the boys.
Speaker 1:It's Selena, her brother Abraham III and her sister.
Speaker 4:I'm thinking of Michael Jackson at this point. A lot of pressure on her shoulders at a young age, yeah, it's the Quintanilla 3.
Speaker 5:Oh, Not the Jackson 5. You mean Los Tres Quintanilla? Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1:And they would make an actual push, which is funny because she begged her dad, like I said, not to sing in English.
Speaker 5:I thought he just meant not to sing.
Speaker 1:Well, she didn't want to sing actually at the beginning, but he was really pushing her to because he's like all I hear is dollar signs. Right, he knew she had an amazing talent. So when they got to Corpus Christi they played in dance halls and nightclubs where Tejano music thrives, and almost immediately they went pro. In 1981, the same year they got to Corpus Christi, texas-based Freddie Records signed Selena y Los Dinos to a recording contract.
Speaker 4:Speaking of oil, Freddie Records. Hey, I'm Freddie Records. You can smell the cigar smoke. You shake his hand. You got to go wipe it off with a towel. He might be a good guy, but Freddie Records, Freddie Records.
Speaker 5:You got talent. Kid Real big talent. Freddie Records let's see kid Real big talent. Freddie Reckitts let's see that talent.
Speaker 1:Where dreams turn to nightmares. Exactly, selena and Elos Dinos began to perform more frequently in Texas in clubs and fairs, as their name began to spread around the state. So instead of just being in Corpus Christi, they're starting to go all over Texas.
Speaker 5:Spreading like oil.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:I'm going to keep going with this oil metaphor.
Speaker 4:Once you get something, you don't let it go.
Speaker 1:No, that's why we love you In 1984, freddie released the band's first full-length album entitled what would you think? Selena y los Dinos, okay, when the album was completed. The president and owner of Freddie Records, who, I'm guessing the name, is Freddie.
Speaker 4:He better be Freddie. Hey name's Chad. How are?
Speaker 1:you. I'm Chad owner of Freddie Records.
Speaker 4:Why'd you call it Freddie Records? Sounds scuzzy, I don't know.
Speaker 5:I once knew someone named Fred, yeah, and that was it.
Speaker 1:He told Selena's dad that the band was not ready to professionally record and release a full-length album. I thought you were going to say that Selena's got something, but those Dinos, I don't know. Abraham was pissed. He dropped the record deal with Freddie Records and told them to go shove it where the sun don't shine.
Speaker 5:Okay, can you do that after you make a deal? Not really.
Speaker 4:What is this? The 80s yeah.
Speaker 5:Remember that contract we signed. Well, I say it's void.
Speaker 4:Now it's over now you gotta remember there's a glut of oil here, yeah, so everyone's kind of out of their minds.
Speaker 1:Yeah, while still under the record deal, because technically he can't just say, he can't just wish it away Right? Selena's father came upon another small local texas record company called cara records and they were based in san antonio sounds nicer, it does cara, the rumored album the new girl in town, was never sold in stores, but singles from cara records were leaked to different album stores so the new girl in town was a record that selena recorded.
Speaker 1:Yes, and it was like a rumor, like oh my god, you hear about the new selena record, it hasn't come out. So the actual record company started selling tapes of single songs at a time.
Speaker 4:So inadvertently they created like a whisper campaign. Yes, that's brilliant.
Speaker 1:Yeah, singles from Kyle Records were sold separately and promotionally around the state of Texas. So, like you said, they're trying to get like this little campaign going, being like oh my God, did you hear this next song? Because you want to be like the cool kid with the cool tape. Exactly, and that's what a lot of kids were with this.
Speaker 5:And that's kind of like how Elvis started at Sun Records they spread the word got people talking.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I toured Sun Records Very small.
Speaker 5:Oh really.
Speaker 4:Very, very tiny.
Speaker 5:Yeah, so it was unlike Elvis.
Speaker 4:And it had balls. Yeah, like Elvis and his balls.
Speaker 1:Yeah, big old nuts we were seeing that on OK Bud this week His balls were freaking huge, huge, yeah, really big, and they're stacked one on top of the other. Yeah, bizarre Sideways.
Speaker 5:Never thought of that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I didn't think of it either until I saw it. Then I can't stop thinking of it, yeah.
Speaker 1:On this album is the song Encontre El Amor, and it was sold as a promotional single in 1983. Let's listen to it. See if it sounds familiar to anybody.
Speaker 2:Hmm.
Speaker 5:Oh, quick change.
Speaker 4:You nailed it. That's awesome, super freak indeed.
Speaker 1:She's 11 years old and her dad's like. My favorite song is Super Freak. You sing it now, wow Brilliant, which the song sounds great, but it's about people being like freaks in bed.
Speaker 4:Right, she's 11 years old. Being like, I'm the kind of girl you don't bring home to mama, yeah, really, unless you're serving like mac and cheese, yeah.
Speaker 5:So Rick James gave birth to Selena and MC Hammer. Wow.
Speaker 4:Amazing.
Speaker 1:What a fact, yeah. So in 1987, that spread like wildfire and got her name out there. She was starting to blow up. In 1987, gp productions, which discovered selena elos dinos performing. They signed the group to a yearly record contract and they were in the studio right after the agreement. That same year, selena elos dinos recorded their second full-length album, alpha, which is the first album to be released without legal actions or threats.
Speaker 5:Alpha, there we go. Yeah, alpha, referring to what Alpha male?
Speaker 1:Yeah, just Alpha Number one, You're number one, but this is what she looked like. Keep in mind she's 16 years old. They're trying to make her look like a 40-year-old woman.
Speaker 4:She looks like she's about to read my horoscope on a 1-800 number.
Speaker 5:1-900 number yeah, she's got that dion warwick. Look and wow, yeah, why did they a 40 year old haircut?
Speaker 1:yeah, and that was on purpose I mean I'm guessing because they had full her dad had full control over, like, her appearance and everything I actually think that's such a brush, a breath of fresh air, because we're so reversed now.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they want everyone to look 10 years old.
Speaker 5:Now, right yeah, you never see them making people look older. No, yeah, I think, though, that might be following the whitney houston playbook when she was very conservatively dressed at first, with the short haircut.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I believe Whitney started in the church she did.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's true too. Yeah, she was actually raised religious. They were. I forgot to mention they were Jehovah Witnesses.
Speaker 4:Oh, selena was, yeah oh.
Speaker 1:The most annoying of all religions.
Speaker 4:But you know, sometimes when you're lonely and you hear a knock on the door, Come and knock on my door.
Speaker 1:Even if I was lonely, I'd still be like get the fuck out of here. I've had some talks with them. What? Yeah, I've talked to them oh my god, 10 minutes.
Speaker 4:They're funny guys. They're just out there. It's like when a girl scout comes with trying to sell you cookies. Well, that would be welcome they're just working.
Speaker 5:When I was growing up, they would come every weekend actually. Oh, oh, my God, these two ladies and I used to think they were friends with my mom.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 5:I'm like, how come you never invite them in? She's like, oh, don't worry about them. And then that's the Watchtower, right.
Speaker 1:I believe that's what the Watchtower magazine? Oh, okay, I think so.
Speaker 5:So we'd always get copies of that piece of that.
Speaker 4:I'm like shit. I'm like this magazine sucks. Yeah, because I liked mad right and I was like where's the story about all the shootings?
Speaker 1:yeah, this was watchtower magazine in 1987 there was another song muñequito de trapo which is called ragdoll oh. It was released in an increase living in a movie? Probably not that one no, uh, the increase in sales began to spread the news about the band, which was promoted and showcased at that year's Tejano Music Awards, which is a huge event. Selena won Best Female Vocalist of the Year Wow, 16 years old. Which she then won nine consecutive times. Whoa Crazy.
Speaker 5:If you think about it, though, she was the queen of Tejano music. What other names are there at that time? Right she's the breakout star. How could you give it to anybody else?
Speaker 1:yeah, the band was well received and they won awards separately from Selena. In 1987, her father, who was proud of the band's winnings and awards, released the album with them and the winner is.
Speaker 4:Oh, he's going in, not you, your daughter, by the way but OK, well, he put it together.
Speaker 5:Yeah, what confidence too. Yeah, and the winner is us. It's like the 85 Chicago Bears with that song.
Speaker 4:Super Bowl shuffle. Yeah, the Super Bowl shuffle.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they shot that before the playoffs even started if they would have lost. Oh my god, I didn't know they made that before. Yeah, holy shit, jim mcmahon was all coked out. He's like I'll do it and the winner is. I mean, this was made null by alan carr later because he got rid of in.
Speaker 1:The winner is and the oscar goes too that's right, so it was immediately obsolete so selena's dad, I think, was poisoning alan carr for taking that away from him, and after this he made selena sing more tahano and mexican songs, which followed their roots, in order to gain more recognition in the tahano world, because that's who immediately recognized them as opposed to what rick james yeah, no, but really she was doing mainly covers or something uh, she was doing both, but okay, but that's what caught fire. Was that rick super free?
Speaker 5:oh the rick, james cut yeah all right. But then he saw a path into the tejano music yes, in 1988, selena y los dinos released preciosa, which is precious oh, I knew that one.
Speaker 1:A nickname that was given to Selena as a child, which sold over 20,000 copies in Texas alone.
Speaker 5:And that's back then. Yeah, think of the.
Speaker 4:Dallas Yep. Before streaming and everything else.
Speaker 1:And it's crazy too, because she was an international star but no record sales or single sales were ever documented outside the United States. So it's like like that's an insane thing, but that happened a lot that documentary searching for sugarman that could have saved his life. He was living in despair in the united states, not knowing that he had gained complete fame in another country, oh, and would have been the most famous person in that country and made millions of dollars, and he was working like fucking horrible jobs, like sweeping up after construction sites and stuff, like until right before he died. Wow.
Speaker 5:Crazy, but the Quintanillas seem to know that they're popular elsewhere. Yeah, or do they think it's just Texas? Yeah, no, they knew, so that's a little bit different. Texas yeah, no, they knew, so that's a little bit different. They probably aware that. Not, they don't even like they're aware.
Speaker 1:The numbers must be high, even though they don't know them yeah around the world yeah, so there was this guy jose behar, not joy behar. Oh, no relation joy.
Speaker 4:It's most ironic name of all time despair behar? I don't know you believe donald trump? I don't even want to. This show is about escapism. Whoop, are you hearing me? We're talking about the fun light story of Selena being murdered. Okay, let's stick with it.
Speaker 1:So Jose Behar. He was the head of EMI Latin Records. Emi huge yeah they were a subdivision of capital records as well. Uh, together with the new head of sony music latin, they watched selena perform at that 1989 to hano music awards. Behar was searching for new latin acts and he wanted to sign selena to emi's label, capital records, while sony music latin offered selena twice em I signing fee oh, bidding war.
Speaker 4:Yes, this is what you want, yes.
Speaker 1:But then you got to think do I go for the money or do I go for the freedom?
Speaker 4:money I don't know how much freedom you get at capital records.
Speaker 5:Yeah that's why you should just take the money, because you're not going to be free anyway yeah, record contracts are just brutal.
Speaker 4:I mean, I think they should be illegal.
Speaker 5:Yeah, remember what they did to Prince.
Speaker 4:Yes, he had to change his name to a symbol, to an emoji, before emojis even existed.
Speaker 5:Fellow Jehovah's Witness, by the way, no.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you didn't know that. No, he was very committed.
Speaker 1:If he knocked on my door, I would open it.
Speaker 5:That would be so awesome, are you Prince?
Speaker 1:If you want to talk about God, yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 4:I was trying to do a voice, but I think he had a deep voice he had a very deep voice.
Speaker 5:I was trying to make him an impression. I was going to go like oh.
Speaker 4:But that's not Prince Blouses.
Speaker 1:So Behar thought that he had discovered the next Gloria Estefan, but his superior, the guy that was head of Sony Music Latin, said you are illogical, because you'd only been in South Texas less than a week before he found her.
Speaker 5:You're illogical According to my statistics. What are?
Speaker 4:you doing Moneyball here.
Speaker 5:What are you?
Speaker 4:talking about? Can she sing, is she beautiful, is she talented?
Speaker 1:It is crazy that you know being there for less than a week and he found Selena.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, that guy was probably just jealous, yeah.
Speaker 1:So Selena's dad chose EMI Latin's offer because he wanted his children to be the first musicians to sign to that label. Awesome, since it was brand new. At this same time, selena earned a high school diploma from the American Correspondent School, which is famous for getting diplomas for touring artists, and she was also accepted at LSU Louisiana State University, oh man. And she actually enrolled at Pacific Western University, taking up business administration as her major subject.
Speaker 4:I had a chance to go to Baton Rouge for LSU. We went to go watch it, me and my friend Jazzy. We watched their homecoming game versus Army, and that campus is different than the one I went to. Holy hell, that is a blast, oh my. It's huge and there's so much money and the stadium and 100,000 people jammed into it.
Speaker 5:Yeah they take it seriously over there, don't they Very?
Speaker 4:serious and the cookouts and the food, it was fantastic.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So she signs this major record deal and then it's just like, yeah, I'm thinking about going to college, I'm going to go to either LSU or Pacific Western. But she did enroll at Pacific Western and anyone would be like what the hell are you doing? Yeah, but keep in mind she's coming from a non-formerly educated family. She watched her father lose everything. Education is key. The this business administration plan was twofold. Plan was twofold. She wanted to make sure that she had the skills to fall back on in case music didn't work out, but also in case they did, she wanted to be able to manage her own career I mean, she's very smart she's unbelievably mature for her age and mature.
Speaker 5:That's what I was looking for, because at that age I for sure would have said fuck college absolutely.
Speaker 4:I used to complain. My parents forced me to go to college. Oh my God.
Speaker 5:Same, try getting sympathy.
Speaker 4:My parents made me go to college. Oh yeah, mine molested me, oh okay, Well, I had to get a formal education.
Speaker 5:I was like Dad, can I just run off to New York for a year?
Speaker 4:That's all I wanted to do and they looked at me and they said, ben, you're half, you know, not capable as a human being. So why don't you just stay in Wisconsin a little bit, bake a little longer in Wisconsin, Get seasoned, get four seasons, all right.
Speaker 5:I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1:I don't know what that means. Jose Behar recalled seeing Selena perform and the whole place just went insane. In wrestling they call it a pop. When the crowd reacts, just with immense pleasure to you being on Also.
Speaker 5:Like Elvis, she is a star. Yeah, remember when the girls were having orgasms, when Elvis first appeared on the stage.
Speaker 4:I do, yes, I do, and then that Sugarman character had to go mop up. Sad.
Speaker 5:Very sad Not realizing he's an international superstar secretly so crazy.
Speaker 1:So soon after her performance, like we said, behar signed her. Uh, people in the business were quoted as saying the people want selena, not the dinos see, I knew it, of course.
Speaker 5:I'm just waiting for when they cut. You know, like those those um expeditions on adverse or something, when they have to cut the cord I'm just waiting for that moment.
Speaker 2:Ace ventura too, when he has to let the raccoon go.
Speaker 4:But yes, it's, it's beyonce, it's destiny's child. There's a star here. Yeah, you know, they don't want all the other, they don't want to have to take care of everybody else right it was probably like okay, no hard feelings, but Dinos adios yes.
Speaker 1:That would be hilarious.
Speaker 4:I mean they had to know.
Speaker 1:Right? Well, I don't think they did. I think they all were like we're working our way up.
Speaker 5:They're here for us, the Dinos. They're looking past Selena.
Speaker 4:Hey they're, all you know, recording the same songs together. Yeah, but like four old dudes and a beautiful young girl who can sing, amazingly, that was all the siblings.
Speaker 1:It was all three of them. So it was like a family, little affair, and they're like you two siblings.
Speaker 4:Get back your shit, oh that'll probably lead to a couple of feuds.
Speaker 5:This isn't the fucking Brady Bunch. Take a hike Right.
Speaker 1:That would be hilarious if there was a meeting, though, and they're just like you know, in the music business, they're the Ace Venturas and they're the raccoons and you ain't the Ace Venturas.
Speaker 4:We're letting you go.
Speaker 1:So she began releasing her own albums with her new logo, which is like that nice Selena, one name.
Speaker 5:Right, the one name thing yeah, so was that from the beginning like that? Yes, because that's brilliant.
Speaker 1:It's Selena. It wasn't her dad's idea. It was this EMI like the new record company idea.
Speaker 5:Because they compared her to Madonna a lot. She was the Tejano.
Speaker 1:She dressed like her too. The.
Speaker 5:Tejano Madonna.
Speaker 1:Tejano Madonna. Oh wow, Hakuna Matata.
Speaker 4:What a wonderful word, what a wonderful bra.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow, wonderful what a wonderful bra, oh wow. In the same year, coca-cola wanted selena to become one of their spokespeople that's huge, absolutely.
Speaker 5:Yeah, the dad's probably freaking out like he's. Finally, the money bag is producing.
Speaker 1:Yes the jingle used in her first two commercials for the company were composed by her brother and chris perez, the latter of whom joined selena elos dinos uh, very recently, right before they all got axed, oh so he was the first non-family member yes, he was a friend that um. The brother met on the road while they were touring as a family and did they always want to keep it in the family?
Speaker 5:Is that why, maybe? Well, I don't want to jump ahead, but Maybe what. That maybe he might become a family member someday.
Speaker 1:Oh, maybe Because he was having romantic feelings for Selena. Okay, despite having a girlfriend in San Antonio. Ooh, romantic feelings between bandmates.
Speaker 4:Nothing bad can happen.
Speaker 5:It won't tear things apart, absolutely not.
Speaker 1:After a trip down to Mexico with the band, Perez thought it would be best for them both to distance themselves, but he found it impossible and chose to try to build a relationship with Selena. They expressed their feelings for each other at a pizza hut.
Speaker 4:So romantic. But that is romantic yeah.
Speaker 1:And I don't want to hear anyone oh, I hate you. First the crust was getting stuffed.
Speaker 4:Then Selena, then Selena and then oh the oohs. But people criticize people for falling in love at fast food restaurants or pizza huts. That's where love. This is America, damn it. Come on now.
Speaker 5:Your eyes are so beautiful. Can you pass the mozzarella sticks please?
Speaker 4:Oh, did we get the deep dish? Oh, nice, yeah, but that is when pizza hut, they had the red cups. There was a buffet. You had a waiter waitress. I forgot about that. Huts were restaurants and people were smoking in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I had the stained glass above you every table it was classy we got to go to pizza hut.
Speaker 5:That yeah, and of course, the book it orders. You could collect your free pizza for reading. Ooh what? Yeah, I don't remember that.
Speaker 1:I was a Papagino's boy.
Speaker 5:We're not. You just killed the vibe Right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we'll just move on.
Speaker 1:Happy to do it Papagino's boy.
Speaker 5:Perez, I prefer Papagayo's.
Speaker 1:Hey Perez and Selena hid their relationship Like I hid my ability to read for fear of getting beat up.
Speaker 4:They're not going to beat you up because you're not a nerd.
Speaker 5:Weren't you pretty tall at 16?.
Speaker 1:No, I was 5'1 until senior year of high school. What yeah? And then at one year I, freaking, bounced up, wow.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it was crazy. Okay, I wonder if you're gonna bounce down at any point. Nope, we all will. Kyle's like peter dinklage. Hello, I regressed.
Speaker 1:They cut me out of the snow white movie yeah, so they they, you know wanted to be committed to each other, but they were like let's not tell anybody about this because our my dad's a psycho I get it.
Speaker 5:Yeah, and just that would cause drama in the band and the business, yeah, exactly so selena released her second studio album ven conmigo in september of 1990.
Speaker 1:So she's getting bigger and bigger. At the same time, there's a registered nurse and a fan by the name of yolanda saldivar oh no, we're already meeting yolanda who approached sel, selena's dad, to start a fan club in San Antonio, because you know her credentials are that she's a registered nurse and a psychopath.
Speaker 5:Right yeah, so they didn't think it was a little odd that this 30-something woman is obsessed with Selena? And wants to get close to her.
Speaker 4:Fans can be very, very scary yeah very, very scary. Yeah, and what? Because they all think they want to part. They all want a part of you. They think that they own parts of you. So, yeah, you're. You. You're not autonomous to them, and I'm sure that's what yolanda was thinking. Oh god, what a psycho.
Speaker 1:she had her own intentions, but her father was just so like let let's keep building, let's make money as much as we can.
Speaker 5:And those were the days when the fan clubs were important. Everyone had them, like the Beastie Boys.
Speaker 4:Yeah, of course.
Speaker 5:That's how you got the word out. It was a community.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Because there's no online forum at that time.
Speaker 4:Just Yolanda.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so she had the idea for the fan club after she attended one of Selena's concerts. Her father approved her request and believed the fan club would bring more exposure to the band. Yolanda soon became a close friend to Selena and the family and she was trusted and became acting president of the fan club in 1991. Ugh jeez. From fan to president.
Speaker 4:Yeah to predator.
Speaker 1:Yeah to predator. Yeah, that's pretty much it. And this is where everyone thinks they know what's best for Selena, because success starts bringing out different intentions in people and then people want to manipulate the situation for their own benefit.
Speaker 4:Some person's just like Selena ska is really taking off. Have you thought about maybe doing like a, maybe like a tuba record?
Speaker 1:Selena's sister, suzette, claimed to have caught Selena and Chris Perez flirting with each other and immediately ran to the father and told him.
Speaker 4:Oh, suzette, come on, daddy, leave him alone. So what is flirting? They're sipping a drink with two straws.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're like eating a piece of pizza together.
Speaker 5:Yeah, she was jealous. Yeah, what a tattletale.
Speaker 4:It's a 1990s romance there was still love then.
Speaker 1:Yep. So Selena's dad ripped him off the bus and told him his relationship with his daughter was over. Oh, selena and Perez continued their relationship despite her father's disapproval. Oh my God, selena and Perez continued their relationship despite her father's disapproval.
Speaker 4:Yes, everybody knows. If your child is dating someone you don't like, pretend you love them.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And then they will break up with them. Just be like yeah, Todd, what a guy. I actually just hung out with Todd the other night. Yeah, Like Dad, he's not cool. If you like him, I think it's fantastic the way he drives all drunk and stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 5:He's fantastic the way he drives, all drunk and stuff. Yeah, it's not. As you know, it's unrequited love when the parents want you to break up, and you can't lose that feeling.
Speaker 4:Right, it becomes stronger.
Speaker 1:I think there's some people who are still in relationships. Just because I disapprove Selena's mother, marcella we haven't talked about her much but it's also because she was very supportive of Selena and was like whatever you want.
Speaker 5:Oh, that's nice, she's a very loving mom. And she's not the momager it sounds like.
Speaker 1:No the dad.
Speaker 4:We have a dadager. Yeah, Yep the mimp.
Speaker 5:Exactly so. What's worse, the momager or the mimp?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 4:Well, I think, momager, could. Actually, if you stick with the business, just music. But then all of a sudden you're like so what about a sex tape, maybe being leaked or something? Then you become a mimp.
Speaker 1:So Selena and Perez actually got caught being romantically together. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 4:I don't know either.
Speaker 1:Kissing or a little bit more, we do not know.
Speaker 4:Try to separate them.
Speaker 1:It was on the tour bus and after he informed them of his disapproval, he pulled over. Oh, he was driving so he was driving the bus. He looks in the mirror. Wait, his daughter is like getting fisted.
Speaker 4:Okay now, from a father's perspective, I mildly understand, looking in the rear view. You're tired. All of a sudden, your daughter's getting banged out in the back. Hey, come on, guys. Jeez, we'll stop at a way. Stop, you guys can go to the bathroom. We'll stop at a Pizza Hut, for Christ's sake.
Speaker 5:Lord. Then Chris lifts his hands. He's like I was just reaching for these Cheetos.
Speaker 1:So he pulled the bus over and an argument between them ensued. He called Perez a cancer in my family and threatened to disband the group if they continued their relationship.
Speaker 5:Yolanda's the cancer so he was going to ruin his daughter's career just because he didn't want her to be with this guy.
Speaker 1:Well, it's not even ruining her career To him. He's replaceable.
Speaker 5:Oh like, break the band up and just bring in new members. Yeah, but not to Selena, He's's replaceable. Oh like break the band up and just bring in new members. Yeah, but not to Selena. He's not replaceable.
Speaker 1:That's true, come on. So he fired Perez from the band and prevented Selena from leaving with him, so he made him get another ride home.
Speaker 3:Wow.
Speaker 5:Man, it's like the guess on Jerry Springer, yeah.
Speaker 1:After his firing Perez and Selena secretly continued that relationship.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I would assume so. After his firing Perez and Selena secretly continued that relationship. Yeah, I would assume so. Don't tell daddy. Oh God, don't say it like that. Selena, this phone sex thing that we're having is like fun, but can you just say don't tell daddy.
Speaker 5:Can you not say that part?
Speaker 4:You know what's worse than that is saying call me daddy, oh God, unless you get $100 million a year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4:Call me whatever the fuck you want.
Speaker 1:On the morning of April 2nd 1992, selena and Perez decided to elope.
Speaker 4:That's how I want to do it.
Speaker 1:Let's hit the bricks and get married, huh.
Speaker 4:I love that idea. I want to do an elope because weddings are horrifying, yeah. I don't understand who would want to go through that having a big wedding I want to go to the Bahamas and all of a sudden come back with a wife.
Speaker 5:Yeah. It could happen.
Speaker 4:It could happen, sure yeah.
Speaker 5:Or you know Thailand, you never know, you never know. Or the Philippines.
Speaker 4:You never you know what.
Speaker 1:I don't trust people who really go every week, every year I go to have a week in Thailand.
Speaker 4:Just to get the stress out. Yeah, okay, there was thailand.
Speaker 1:Just to get the stress out yeah, okay, the local place that would tell me that and I was like yeah, buddy, I think you're, uh, probably not on the up and up. Yeah, stay away from my child please.
Speaker 1:Selena thought her father would have to accept them if she, you know, committed this act yeah, they're married yeah sure you can't get around that yeah, uh, she thought she had more time to be able to go and tell him. Be like like, hey, I got a ring, but the media picked up on it before they even returned home.
Speaker 5:Those vultures, scumbags.
Speaker 1:It's crazy.
Speaker 5:It's all over Watchtower magazine being handed out en masse.
Speaker 4:Oh, my God, selena and Mr.
Speaker 1:Perez, yep. So Selena's family is desperately trying to find her while she's out getting married, and she has no idea that the media is running with the story already.
Speaker 4:Wow.
Speaker 5:Poor girl. Yeah, that must have been traumatic Totally. Or happy, you know. On the one hand, it's like you know what we are married.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah. So what? I think the point, though, was they wanted to keep it private and then, all of a sudden, everyone knows.
Speaker 5:How private can you really keep it? For how long?
Speaker 1:Well, if you're eloping, it's possible to keep it very private, but somebody leaked it Right, probably someone that worked at the place they got married at, or something.
Speaker 5:Well, I mean from the family mainly. Oh yeah, that's got to spill out, especially with that loudmouth sister. Right, that's true, yeah, daddy, god damn it. But that's brilliant, because then the dad can't say like hey, I want you to spend less time with your husband, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4:I mean they're bona fide.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they did it the right way so her father did not take the news well and he alienated himself Like just went into hiding Until they came back. What?
Speaker 4:is his deal. Was he like into his daughter in a weird way? I don't want to spread those rumors. You would think that he would be happy for his daughter, because this guy doesn't seem like he's a horrible person.
Speaker 5:It's starting to sound like Twin Peaks, not to give any spoilers away. It was wrapped in plastic.
Speaker 4:It's starting to sound like Twin Peaks. Not to give any spoilers away. Yeah, it was wrapped in plastic.
Speaker 5:Yeah, his penis.
Speaker 4:That's what I was going to say that's actually very good.
Speaker 5:They're safe.
Speaker 3:Plastic from the Dow.
Speaker 1:Chemical Company. Selena and Chris Perez moved into an apartment in Corpus Christi. In interviews, her dad expressed how he feared Perez could be a machista, which is Spanish for male chauvinist, and he thought that Chris would end up forcing Selena to end her career in musicals. Ultimately, he thought he was going to lose his money train.
Speaker 5:Oh, I see, so you had me, then you lost me, because at first glance that's kind of nice, yeah, but he doesn't want a son that, or a son-in-law that has toxic masculinity. But you're saying that was a front. Really it's about he doesn't want to lose his money ticket I don't think.
Speaker 1:I don't think it has to be mutually exclusive. I think it could be column a, column b, but he ultimately wanted to have the most control over his daughter's decisions, that's really what it was.
Speaker 4:They bonded over music, so I don't think they would stop doing that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly that's true too.
Speaker 5:I mean, she was young, to be fair. Yeah, what is she like 21 around this time In?
Speaker 1:1992? Yeah, 21. But again mature, yeah, mature for her age. It became clear over time that Perez was not going anywhere, so her father later apologized.
Speaker 5:What gave it away the marriage certificate maybe?
Speaker 1:But that doesn't normally, I mean. For a lot of people that doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 4:It's like one of those birthmarks that you're just like, fine, you start to accept it, and then you make it into a little tattoo and it eventually turns into cancer. Yeah, you incorporate it into like a garfield tattoo or something and you're like it's a part of me now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so he apologized, he accepted the marriage and took perez back into the band, oh, and then immediately moved in next door to them oh my god, I always am on his side for like half a second.
Speaker 5:And you finish the sentence.
Speaker 4:Usually you hear about like mother-in-laws.
Speaker 5:Oh, this is beyond.
Speaker 1:She was so stressed out all the time that she was living next to her dad and just wanted it to not. She wanted to move away, but she also felt like she didn't want to betray her family.
Speaker 5:Right. Yeah because, then, your dad's hearing everything If you're up there I'm like what were you kids up to all night?
Speaker 4:fucking.
Speaker 5:They're in a different house, right yeah, but you can still see what's going on I don't know what kind of sex you have no, I'm not even talking about sex, having a party, you know, like anything you're doing yeah, yeah, they're doing like big gang bangs and stuff.
Speaker 4:Yeah, when a bus pulls out outside the house and you're like hey, what's going on over there?
Speaker 5:something like that. Okay, well, I mean well. In real life this actually happened. One of my cousins was having fun with friends and singing karaoke still at like 5 am yeah and my uncle doesn't. At the time didn't live that far from the house, so he heard the whole thing and went to tell him like hey, you gotta quiet down now.
Speaker 4:Well, maybe they had to quiet it down.
Speaker 5:But that's what I'm saying. The dad lives so close he can wear that. So as long as your dad is close, he's gonna know, what's going on always.
Speaker 4:The house is shaking, like the beginning of Dick Tracy. Come on.
Speaker 1:Aside from music. In 1994, selena began designing and manufacturing a line of clothing. She opened two boutiques called Selena Etc. Oh wow, one in Corpus Christi and the other in San Antonio. Both were equipped with in-house beauty salons.
Speaker 4:Wow, so she's an entrepreneur.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 5:Wait, but what's the deal with San Antonio? You made a sound.
Speaker 1:That's where Yolanda resides.
Speaker 4:Oh, I got PTSD from that place. Don't even get me going.
Speaker 1:By the end of 1994, selena et cetera had held two fashion shows to showcase their clothing line.
Speaker 5:So Yolanda is the, et cetera. Oh God.
Speaker 1:She might start thinking she's the Selena Exactly. Oh no God. She might start thinking she's the Selena Exactly.
Speaker 5:Oh, no, no.
Speaker 1:So Selena y los Dinos held a concert after the second fashion show on December 3rd 1994 at the Hemisphere Arena in San Antonio Wow.
Speaker 4:So she is doing a lot artistically. Yeah, and she was such a brilliant person.
Speaker 1:She was in active negotiations to open more stores in monterey, mexico and puerto rico. Oh nice. The quintanilla family were so impressed with the way that yolanda yolanda managed the fan club that they had her oversee business operations day to day for selena's boutiques don't do it.
Speaker 4:it I mean, I love my registered nurses, but this is not in the skill set. This is not the skill set.
Speaker 5:Hey, you're pretty good at taking my pulse. Can you manage my fortune?
Speaker 4:What do you think about inventory?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was reported that Selena earned over $5 million from these boutiques.
Speaker 5:Good for her Shut up, yep, so she's truly an entrepreneur. These boutiques Good for her. Shut up, yep, so she's truly an entrepreneur, yeah.
Speaker 4:That's 1994 money, so it's probably $8 million by today's standards maybe $10.
Speaker 5:Yeah, and she's thinking of the long game here. Yeah, she's not only going to be a hugely successful music artist but she's going to have this whole empire.
Speaker 4:Yes, and I'm thinking now again, she would be 53. You know, you think about, like Bethany Frankel, you think about these people who become named. She would have had so many brands. Selena would have been everywhere to this day. Oh yeah, I mean it would probably be a billion-dollar industry.
Speaker 5:I have no doubt. Look at Jessica Simpson. If she can do it, anybody can. Sure she thought tuna was chicken you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4:That was fake. That was fake. They told her to say that in the reality show.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 4:And then she cried about it.
Speaker 5:Oh, she did. Okay, I'm sorry, jessica, I have no idea. Another Texas gal, by the way.
Speaker 1:That's true. Selena was ranked amongst the top 20 wealthiest hispanic musicians who grossed the highest income in 1993 and 1994, so young, yeah, absolutely a lot of pressure. It's incredible. So, uh, selena was about to release her fourth studio album. I believe we have an interview here about this time in her life where everything is blowing up.
Speaker 5:Yeah, so 1994 she also won the Grammy for Best Mexican-American Album. She sure did. That makes it official when you're a Grammy winner.
Speaker 4:Absolutely Hell yeah.
Speaker 5:It's huge If you're trying to conquer the music world. Mm-hmm Big year. Selena Chihuahua el.
Speaker 6:Grammy. Una cosa yo creo. It was like a dream come true, ¿verdad, exactly? Tell us about it. When they first told us that we were nominated, we all freaked out. We couldn't believe it, and the first thing I promised, the first thing that came to mind, was like I have to take a camera so I can take a picture with all these stars. And it didn't hit me later until, like, oh my God, you know what if we win? You know, and we went out there and they didn't let me take my camera in. That's one of the things I didn't get to take any pictures afterwards, but we were sitting there when they announced.
Speaker 6:I had this huge knot in my stomach. I was so nervous. And then they announced the winner. I mean we all. Well, congratulations, guys.
Speaker 5:Great. When's the big party? I know you're going to come to San Antonio and do a big bash. I don't know you already had it.
Speaker 4:No, we haven't working and it's a good problem to have, though yeah, um, we're just so happy. What's?
Speaker 1:happening so many good things have been happening after we won the music awards right, and it's been great. She's so charismatic, yeah, and down to earth, yeah. Yeah, she's in her early 20s, 22 years old at this point that's great.
Speaker 5:It blows my mind just the poise and, as you mentioned earlier, the maturity, yeah yeah, her fourth studio album was called amor prohibido what is that called?
Speaker 4:what does that mean?
Speaker 5:forbidden love, whoa I wonder what that was based on. Interesting, the dad's like. Are you making fun of me?
Speaker 1:yes, the album debuted at number three on the us billboard top latin albums chart, number one on the us billboard regional mexican mexican albums chart and after peaking at number one on the top latin albums, the album remained in the top five for the rest of the year and into early 1995, which has only been rivaled by candle in the wind elton john after princess di died yeah, that was on the top, like it was like number one for almost a year and that was propelled by, let's be honest, a major tragedy.
Speaker 5:Yeah, this is just.
Speaker 1:This is just music.
Speaker 4:Popularity, popularity, yeah, now don't give me, don't mistake me, I like Elton John, right? Yeah, of course, but Candle in the Wind, that was based off of Marilyn Monroe first, it was.
Speaker 3:He just kind of did a redo.
Speaker 5:Wow, you didn't know that. I think we talked about it on the episode that we did Good by Norma Jean the whole thing, and he just crossed off Norma Jean and wrote Diana.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I forgot about that.
Speaker 4:I just think it's a little copy and paste.
Speaker 1:Wow, it's literally, it's a double dip, he double dipped.
Speaker 5:He double dipped, no double dipping. I wonder when he's going to whip it out again. Someone great has to die.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if it's not, then they're going to be like really Right.
Speaker 5:He can't just waste it on Gene Hackman, even though he's a great actor right.
Speaker 4:Maybe if Stone Cold Steve Austin dies, he can do it for him.
Speaker 1:Goodbye Hackman Gene, goodbye Hackman Gene. So yeah, Amor Prohibido became the second Tejano album to reach year-end sales of 500,000 copies. Making copies.
Speaker 5:Yes, indeed, we're in the early 90s. It's an appropriate reference.
Speaker 4:It's a different Rob Schneider back then. Oh yeah, Way different. I don't know People are weird.
Speaker 1:Uh, let's see it was certified 36 times platinum damn how the hell does that happen?
Speaker 4:36 times, isn't there? What's the next? Is there another level?
Speaker 1:yeah, I think diamond is like the biggest. You can go right well why isn't it?
Speaker 5:diamond, can I just't know.
Speaker 4:Can I just?
Speaker 5:have one platinum.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Oh 36.
Speaker 4:After like the 28th, you're like, oh, it's platinum for the 29th time.
Speaker 5:But I don't okay. Like by the 35th are you just over it? Like, oh, another platinum tier huh, great, anything else.
Speaker 1:Is there anything next? This album also popularized Tejano music among a younger generation.
Speaker 4:I mean, it came all the way to Wisconsin. Wow, yep, no, we knew who Selena was and I learned Big time. You are famous. If you make it to small town Wisconsin, you are world famous.
Speaker 1:Yes, the album's commercial success led to a Grammy nomination for Best Mexican American Album at the 37th Grammy Awards. It won Record of the Year at the 95 Tejano Music Awards, which she always cleans up, and Regional Mexican Album of the Year at the 95 to hano music awards, which she always cleans up, and regional mexican album of the year at the 1995 lo nuestro awards I do feel bad for the tohano musicians.
Speaker 4:It's like she's the michael jordan of the era and they're like if she wasn't around. That's for you to know, yolanda. Yeah, maybe we'd win every now and again.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that reminds me of that In Living Color sketch. It was called the Black People Awards and Whoopi Goldberg was nominated in every category Hilarious.
Speaker 1:At this time, she was not only one of Latin music's most successful touring acts, but one of music's successful touring acts.
Speaker 4:Yeah, she transcended. Yes.
Speaker 1:Selena was then considered bigger than Tejano itself and broke barriers in the Latin music world. She was called, as Alejandro said earlier, the queen of Tejano music, and Billboard magazine ranked Amor Prohibido among the most essential Latin recordings of the past 50 years no, that's amazing and included it on its list of the top 100 albums of all time.
Speaker 4:Apparently they're never on on the 4, 5, or 6 train in New York where you can hear the best Tejano music. Yeah, for real, every single trip. I love that Some people didn't like the music at the subways, but I enjoyed the music on the subways.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 5:You hear what's really out there.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 5:And it's interesting that she skipped levels Like she was never princess.
Speaker 1:In late 1994, EMI chairman Charles Koppelman, which he decided Selena had achieved her goals in the Spanish-speaking market. A guy named Koppelman, you should start speaking English now.
Speaker 5:Enough with that Latin jazzy stuff.
Speaker 4:I mean it's a little cobble pot yeah.
Speaker 1:The penguin.
Speaker 4:Koppelman.
Speaker 1:He wanted to promote her as an English language solo pop artist.
Speaker 4:Forget that brown shit, we're moving on.
Speaker 5:Time to make the real money. I want to hear music. I can understand, have you thought about learning Spanish.
Speaker 4:No, I'm an ignorant asshole.
Speaker 5:And she did not Speak Spanish Naturally in the home. I think my understanding is she wasn't.
Speaker 4:My understanding is she wasn't particularly fluent in Spanish, but she could sing in Spanish very well.
Speaker 5:But also in the interviews with her answers like she sounds very fluent.
Speaker 4:Yes, I believe that she sung phonetically. That's how she was able to do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, her dad really broke it down for her and made her sing it.
Speaker 4:Which is even more amazing. Yeah, because I think she was singing in her second language, right?
Speaker 5:And that's what.
Speaker 4:She became a superstar.
Speaker 5:Yeah, and then you even heard it in that interview. They were both speaking like Spanglish Right, so she'd be like Estoy muy excited.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, which, yeah, which Hilaria Baldwin tries to do.
Speaker 4:Oh my lord, don't even do it, don't bring it up, hilaria, please.
Speaker 1:My wife is from Spain, selena. She continued touring while EMI began prepping the crossover album, going from Spanish to English Wow, and they were recruiting a bunch of Grammy Award winning composers During that time. She hadn't even crossed over yet, at that time that they were making steps, they were planning ways to get her to do the English album, to make her a solo pop artist. She performed to a record breaking sold out concert at the Houston Astrodome in February 1995. She hadn't even got the English album out yet.
Speaker 4:That's amazing, it's incredible.
Speaker 5:Weren't there over 50,000 people there.
Speaker 1:I think even more. Wow, yeah, because the Astrodome, it's huge. It holds like 100,000 people. It's huge. Yeah, I got to see the outside of it when I went to go see the Patriots play in Houston. It's an impressive building.
Speaker 4:Pretty exciting story, Kyle. What other buildings have you seen the outside of?
Speaker 1:But that's where WrestleMania 17?
Speaker 5:was okay so.
Speaker 1:I was happy to be there.
Speaker 5:If Kyle hasn't performed there, he's at least seen the outside of it.
Speaker 1:I've seen it. I was like, hey, that's the thing.
Speaker 4:I love the Kyle Plouffe travel show.
Speaker 1:And then we saw the outside of the Empire stapled in. Yeah, that was pretty good, that was pretty cool. Yeah, so I've seen the.
Speaker 5:I thought about going up, but I was too scared. Yeah, have I told you guys the story about how I was in the kipsey airport?
Speaker 4:no, do tell, that's it oh wow, I didn't know they had one. I like that story actually. That was kind of interesting.
Speaker 1:Tell it again, yeah in 1995 she also made a cameo appearance in Don Juan DeMarco oh, which starred Marlon Brando, Johnny Depp and Faye Dunaway.
Speaker 5:Yeah. So this is interesting. The song have you Ever Really Loved a Woman by Bryan Adams comes from that movie. Really, yeah, it was made for that movie.
Speaker 4:And he also didn't he make that other song for Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves.
Speaker 5:Yes, Anything I Do.
Speaker 4:I Do it for you.
Speaker 5:Yeah, do it for you, but this song is a masterpiece in my opinion. Yeah, have you Ever Really Loved a Woman? And it's a motif throughout the entire movie, and it's sung in Spanish as well. Okay, and Selena appears in this movie and it was her only movie role, unfortunately but she has a couple of scenes, one with Johnny Depp and the other performing in front of Marlon Brando like as a mariachi performer.
Speaker 4:I'm sort of thinking of Village of the Damned, or Queen of the Damned, aaliyah's film. Yeah. That was the only film that she was in. Wow again, it's crazy. Both of them would have been movie stars, yeah.
Speaker 5:Everything else. But how exciting is that? One minute you're rising in the pop music world and then you're working with Marlon Brando, right? I mean, granted, it was 1990s, marlon.
Speaker 4:Brando, I love Fat Brando, don't even get me started.
Speaker 5:The movie is bizarre. I recommend it because it's fascinating, like half of it works. Half of it is like this romantic movie with Johnny Depp as this Don Juan character.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 5:And the other half is just Marlon Brando in his office going like what's with this guy? Every woman's falling in love with him.
Speaker 4:Sounds like Mike.
Speaker 1:Tyson now.
Speaker 4:That's all he's got to do. That's why he's the best.
Speaker 1:Marlon Brando is Mike Tyson.
Speaker 5:So go see it. But more than that, listen to the soundtrack. Yes, and Selena has four songs on it Beautiful awesome the movie did well.
Speaker 1:It was a budget of $25 million. It made $70 million at the box office.
Speaker 5:Nice yeah that's a hit. Almost tripled up, absolutely. Johnny depp was unstoppable then. Yeah, absolutely. I mean this was the time of ed wood the movie is amazing you know who else was unstoppable at this time?
Speaker 1:who? Yolanda saldovar? Oh, we're having a good time at the height of her fame.
Speaker 5:We were talking about fat, marlon brando.
Speaker 4:And then he has to go and kill the mood again. Now we're on chubby Yolanda.
Speaker 1:Now we're on fat Yolanda. Oh God, Selena signed Yolanda because she trusted her so much as her entertainment agent.
Speaker 5:Now she's an agent.
Speaker 1:She would be in charge of all entertainment deals and appearances.
Speaker 4:Oh my God, this is the only mistake Selena made.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this was because her dad was a drinker and really got to trust Yolanda so she could take care of the business while giving him some time off to do some other things.
Speaker 4:Yolanda's great. Every time I'm drunk I see three of her and she injects me with something and it makes me go to sleep.
Speaker 5:And it's so weird how they keep moving her up Like what next she going to be CEO of Dow? Yeah, who knows? Yeah.
Speaker 1:Who knows? Yeah, she's releasing mustard gas into their house.
Speaker 5:She probably caused less damage there than what really happened For real.
Speaker 1:After the agreement, salivar moved from San Antonio to Corpus Christi to be closer to Selena. So then you have Selena and her husband living in one apartment, the father living across the street now, and then Yolanda showing up to the neighborhood, and then Yolanda oh no, fucking Yolanda. In December 1994, the boutiques began to suffer after the number of staff for both stores had significantly, significantly decreased.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they probably couldn't deal with Yolanda, yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah, so what is going on Like? Is it something on the administrative side that's going wrong?
Speaker 1:yeah, okay, so it's not like people are losing interest in the brand well, they kind of are, because, according to staff members, saldivar often fired employees she disliked. Employees at the stores regularly complained about saldivar's behavior. They went straight to Selena and Selena dismissed the claims, believing she would never risk the business based on erratic decisions Damn. According to Selena's father, the staff later turned their attention to him and began informing him about Saldivar's behavior. Shockingly, he did actually take the claim seriously, because he's like nobody's messing with my money.
Speaker 1:Yeah right. So he went to Selena in private and told her to be careful and said that Saldivar might not be a good influence or fit for them as a family and business.
Speaker 4:Get her out of here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wow. But his word had already been soured to her. Right, keep in mind. He's tried to force her to do everything she didn't want to do Sing in Spanish, got rid of her boyfriend, had to move next door to keep tabs on her. She was an adult and didn't need to listen to him anymore. Right by January 1995, selena's fashion designer, martin Gomez, her cousin Deborah Ramirez and clients had expressed their concerns over Yolanda's behavior and management skills. During an interview with Saldivar in 1995, reporters from the Dallas Morning News said her devotion to Selena bordered on obsession.
Speaker 4:Ugh scary.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:It is really a horror movie.
Speaker 5:You can't have someone working for you. That is an obsessed fan. You should not hire Kathy Bates for your secretary. Well, she does get me the paper.
Speaker 1:She makes me stay on track, oh man, because she hobbles me get the pages out, oh yolanda so according to selena's dad, in january 1995 he began receiving telephone calls from fans who said they had paid for memberships in the Selena fan club and had received nothing in return for it. So he's like, let me look into this. Absolutely. He discovered that Yolanda had embezzled more than $30,000 in forged checks from both the fan club and the boutiques.
Speaker 5:I've heard that that number could be as high as $90,000.
Speaker 1:That's just checks. Keep in mind. This cat, the heyday of cash right right yeah. So she probably got way more than that. Her father had held a meeting with selena and suzette, the sister, to confront yolanda. Her father presented everyone with inconsistencies about the disappeared funds. He told yolanda that if she did not provide evidence that disproved his accusations, he would involve the police. He then banned Saldivar from having any contact with Selena. However, selena did not want to dissolve their friendship. You gotta do it. She valued Yolanda way too much.
Speaker 5:You know what this reminds me of as well. It's kind of like the Monica Lewinsky Linda Tripp friendship, where there's an older woman who's very controlling.
Speaker 4:I'm a mentor, I'm one of the good ones. Yeah, I'm here for you, god. Yeah, speaking of my flower, by the way.
Speaker 2:I'm recording.
Speaker 4:I'm recording.
Speaker 1:Talk right here, please. She thought that Yolanda was essential to the success of the clothing line in Mexico.
Speaker 5:Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Do you want to hear that scene recreated by Hollywood? I would love to. Yes, okay, so we have a scene from the hit movie Selena oh, fantastic, starring J-Lo, j-lo. Yes, jenny from the block.
Speaker 4:I mean not really Everyone that was on the block is like I never saw Jenny. Yeah, never heard of her.
Speaker 5:Jenny who.
Speaker 3:Yolanda, how could you do this to me?
Speaker 5:I never took anything from you, Selena I trusted you.
Speaker 3:I trusted you with everything I have. Never. How could you do this to my fans? You know what they mean to me. Please give me a chance to prove it to you.
Speaker 4:Please, oh, the crocodile tears Master manipulator, absolutely.
Speaker 5:By the way, yolanda was played by the great actress Lupe Anteveros in the movie. She was also in as Good as it Gets, she's the one that Jack Nicholson says sell someplace else. We're all stocked up here. And then kyle, she's in another one of our favorites. She plays consuelo in storytelling.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, we always reference consuelo, you gotta see storytelling, oh, absolutely, and the specific story with Consuelo, she's great yes.
Speaker 5:Anytime I'm like sweating, doing work for somebody I think of Consuelo.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 5:It's very sad and disturbing, okay, anyway.
Speaker 1:Where were we? She's got range.
Speaker 4:Yes, she's got range, and so does Yolanda. Yes, well, sadly enough. Well, so does Yolanda, sadly enough.
Speaker 5:Well, she's about to go to the gun range. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1:Selena wanted to keep her close, also because a piece of her did distrust her at this point. I would hope so. She knew that Yolanda had all the bank records, statements and financials necessary for tax preparation, so she's worried about taxes instead of her life.
Speaker 5:So taxes can kill you. They can and they do. Death and taxes, it's the same thing I'm realizing.
Speaker 1:It sure is. This is the second time you brought up taxes, I know.
Speaker 5:Well, I brought it up, Not today, though I think we've done another episode.
Speaker 4:Yes, I love thinking about taxes.
Speaker 5:Speaking of, isn't it tax season? Hey?
Speaker 4:Let's cut to an ad.
Speaker 2:Oh we don't have any, okay, great.
Speaker 1:Yolanda sat on her hands and delayed providing the bank statements and financial records by saying she had been physically and sexually assaulted in Mexico.
Speaker 4:So this is her leverage?
Speaker 5:Yes, I'm not trying to be mean here, but have you seen pictures of Yolanda?
Speaker 4:I mean Well anyone can be, I know, I know. But I will say in this case, yolanda knows she gives that away. There's no connection whatsoever with the business. Yeah, then Selena can just slowly say goodbye, right.
Speaker 5:I know I am of course making making a bad joke, but it's just because she's such a horrible person. Yeah absolutely I can't imagine anyone wanting to get near her in any way.
Speaker 4:Oh, you can feel it. She's just nasty. And who would lie for?
Speaker 1:money. No one, nobody nah certainly not in hollywood no, definitely not.
Speaker 4:This is honest. Still can't believe. When I was driving over here, I was like I can't wait to see all the nice people I'm going to meet. What an idiot. I'm still from Wisconsin. 15 years in Brooklyn I'm still like, oh, there'll be some nice people in Los.
Speaker 5:Angeles. They smile while they stab you in the back.
Speaker 4:Exactly, so you can't see it.
Speaker 1:Yep Yolanda, along with Selena, appeared at a medical clinic on March 31st 1995 to have Yolanda examined for an assault which she claimed to have happened to her in Monterey while she was taking care of the boutique.
Speaker 4:So she took it seriously. They did the right steps.
Speaker 1:And yeah, during that visit Saldivar was given a brief physical exam.
Speaker 5:But this did not include the gynecological exam specifically done in cases of sexual assault Based on her saying she didn't want it done.
Speaker 1:no, the nurse suggested that salivar needed to have the rape exam done in san antonio for three reasons she was a resident of that town, the clinic they were currently at was in corpus christi and the assault occurred in mexico. So, yeah, she took her to a corpus christi clinic. Okay, they were like this is all over the place, we don't want to do it here, okay. Afterwards, selena met with Yolanda at her motel room at a Days Inn in Corpus Christi. At the motel, selena demanded the financial papers.
Speaker 1:At 11.48 am, saldivar got a gun from her purse and pointed it at Selena. As Selena attempted to flee, saldivar shot her once on the right lower shoulder, severing her artery and causing severe loss of blood. Critically wounded, selena ran towards the lobby, leaving a 392-foot trail of blood that is longer than a football field. Wow, she had to run so far, oh my God. She collapsed on the floor of the lobby as the clerk called emergency services, with Saldivar still chasing after her, calling her a bitch. Before collapsing, selena named Saldivar as her assailant and gave the number of the room she was shot room 158.
Speaker 5:So those are her last words.
Speaker 1:Yolanda 158.
Speaker 4:Oh my gosh, that's so sad.
Speaker 1:Meanwhile, saldivar knew she was in deep shit so she attempted to flee in her pickup truck. She was spotted by a responding police cruiser. She actually locked herself in her fucking pickup truck and pointed the gun at her head for nine and a half hours. So there was a standoff. Nine and a half hours there was a huge standoff with police and the FBI and by the end of it there were almost a thousand fans there that were at the FBI and by the end of it there were almost a thousand fans there that were at the scene Watching the standoff. Yes God, so this is a crazy.
Speaker 4:I had no idea.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is a news clip from that day.
Speaker 2:It took Corpus Christi police more than nine hours, but they finally arrested the woman suspected of shooting and killing Grammy award-winning star Selena. Corpus Christi Police Chief Henry Garrett identified the suspect as 32-year-old Yolanda Saldivar.
Speaker 1:You could hear the people cheering when she was getting arrested. Did you hear that in the background? Yes, killing Grammy award-winning star Selena.
Speaker 2:Corpus Christi Police Chief Henry Garrett identified the suspect as 32-year-old Yolanda Saldivar. Saldivar helped police negotiators at bay, crying and wringing her hands while sitting in a red pickup truck and holding a gun to her head, until she gave up about 9.30 Friday night.
Speaker 5:The OJ playbook.
Speaker 2:The shooting of 23-year-old Selena Quintanilla Perez was reported shortly before noon at the Days Inn Motel in northwest Corpus Christi. How you doing Houston, texas? Can you imagine the Days Inn Motel?
Speaker 5:in Northwest Corpus Christi. How you doing Houston, texas? Can you imagine the Days Inn? It's usually mundane.
Speaker 2:At an afternoon news conference Friday, the singer's father, Abraham Quintanilla, said Sal Navarro was a disgruntled employee of Selena's who was about to be fired from her job at a boutique.
Speaker 3:She worked for Selena.
Speaker 1:You see how he distanced himself. She worked for Selena. Motherfucker, you're the one that found her.
Speaker 4:Well, all right. Well, now you're just yelling at your father, okay no, I think you don't like the dad no, he's like, well, that was selena's person.
Speaker 5:It's like no, that was your fucking person yeah, but he didn't know she was no one being a psycho yolanda's the one to blame here yeah but, my god he let her so 32, I thought she was older I did too.
Speaker 4:Yeah, she looked a lot older. Yeah, that's, being a nurse is tough.
Speaker 5:I mean yeah uh yeah, selena, being a psychotic killer is tough oh, that is.
Speaker 4:We have to think about that. It's stressful. Yeah, no one thinks about the killer uh.
Speaker 1:Selena was taken to the corpus Christi Memorial Hospital at noon. Her pupils were dilated and fixed and there was no evidence of neurological function.
Speaker 4:Oh man.
Speaker 1:She had no vital signs and was declared clinically brain dead.
Speaker 5:Now, was that just because she bled out? Yeah, I'm asking because she was shot in the shoulder.
Speaker 6:It sucks that she Hit the artery, I know, but that's just the worst.
Speaker 4:It sucks that she Hit the artery, I know, but that's just the worst.
Speaker 5:It sucks that it was such bad luck that it burst the artery Right yeah. Because, otherwise you could survive a shoulder shot, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:But because of who she was. They knew she was already completely gone, but the people who worked at the hospital wanted to work on her as hard as they possibly could oh God, possibly could. So if it was anybody else, they would have not.
Speaker 1:They would have just been like time of death right, but they were massaging her heart and trying to get her back, and it was, uh, futile efforts. Yeah, yeah, um, she had 50 minutes of surgery and she was pronounced dead from blood loss and cardiac arrest at 105 pm. Uh, the internal examination revealed that she had not ingested any type of drug, nor was she pregnant, which was a popular rumor at the time.
Speaker 4:Oh weird, yeah, so why would yeah, why would that even matter? Even if she was the baby didn't stop the bullet right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that baby had a chance to be a hero yeah, catches it in its hand yes, so just like that, I mean just giving this lady one step at a time, year by year, allowing her to grip, get her grip on the uh, the entire operation was just such a bad idea.
Speaker 5:And a grip on that gun yeah.
Speaker 4:Sometimes you just got to cut out these people. It's just, you never think someone would actually do something like that, right?
Speaker 1:No, I know how could you Desperate people do desperate shit. Yeah, how could you Desperate?
Speaker 4:people do desperate shit. Yeah, well it's. I mean again Yolanda, not to date the episode because it's evergreen, but she is up for parole soon and this has to be remembered, and I don't think that she deserves to ever see the light of day as a free person again.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:This is truly psychotic. I don't think you get, you don't get fixed from this.
Speaker 1:No, no, no way. She blamed Selena for her own death Still.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, this is Yolanda explaining what happened in the hotel room. How did she end up shooting Selena?
Speaker 3:Okay, Did she say she wanted to fire you? Never, never. She never told me that I was telling her to leave and I said it's over, selena, it's over. I can't work for you, no more. I can't work for you, no more.
Speaker 1:She said she was quitting she went down.
Speaker 3:She grabbed my feet and told me not to leave her.
Speaker 3:Oh, my God, and I picked it up and I told her just leave. And I grabbed the gun, put it in my head, I pulled the thing back and I said if you don't leave, I'm going to do it, talena. And she got up and she says Mom, we need to talk about this. We need to talk about this, I'm going to close the door. And when she was walking to the door, she was going at an angle and I told her don't close the door and in that instant the gun went off.
Speaker 4:What I love, alec Baldwin's defense. What is this? The rust set that is so heinous. Yeah, what a psycho. Disgusting human being, selena was begging her not to leave what's more likely.
Speaker 5:Yeah, and we know that she wasn't suicidal, because she's lying about everything, right, but let's say she was. It's that classic thing of the suicidal person instead of killing themselves, they kill somebody else. Well, because suicide is a homicidal act. Yeah, but it's just so infuriating when they end up living and then another person ends up dying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just so tragic when these losers take the life of someone who was giving so much to the world and to people and yeah it's just horrible yeah, and then I mean it's hard to call howard stern a loser, but this is I can, i'll'll call Howard Stern a loser, right fucking now. This is very not nice.
Speaker 4:Howard Stern is trash. He is garbage. It is done, it is over. From anal ring toss, that was his peak. Whatever he's doing now is the single worst form of radio I have ever heard, anyway.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I mean I have so many mixed feelings about Howard because, on the one hand, I think he's a genius and there's no equal in radio and even entertainment I don't think Whoa but he has a lot of bad moments through the years. And this is probably one of his worst moments that I cannot stand behind.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:And this was the day of her funeral by the way, oh my God, when he went on the air. Woke Howard Stern.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not so woke here.
Speaker 2:Let's go to Selena, please. This is the Latin, the Tex-Mex Madonna. Oh my God, this music does absolutely nothing to me. I have no feel. It's almost like you could not have it on or have it on, and my mood wouldn't change. Alvin and the Chipmunks have more soul. Spanish people have the worst taste of music they really do. They don't like depth. No, they don't like any depth. It's all like, you know we have nothing.
Speaker 3:Our government is corrupt, see yes 20,000 mourners yesterday passed by her coffin in the city convention center.
Speaker 2:Is that right?
Speaker 3:Yeah, they are having her funeral today, Ah she's a beauty.
Speaker 2:They're going to have a mass.
Speaker 3:We will never hear this kind of music again.
Speaker 2:Three of us ate her fingers. We were so hungry from the bad country we live in. Today is Corpus.
Speaker 3:Christi a funeral mass.
Speaker 4:America's moral authority, Howard Stern, everybody.
Speaker 1:Get your fucking vaccinations.
Speaker 5:Good God. And so the National hispanic media coalition called for stations to pull them off the air. They filed complaints with the fcc. Yeah, I'm not for censorship.
Speaker 4:I don't think he needed to be pulled off the air, but he definitely needed to have someone speak with him. Yeah, I'd be like you're a fucking asshole, because he was always a shut-in. He never. That's why he gets all of his news and information from television and trash on the internet. That's why he has no human connection well, this incident I'm sorry to interrupt.
Speaker 5:No, go ahead spanish music it's like all the soul. Of course, of course howard certainly doesn't have any authority on what good music is it's just not like poison.
Speaker 4:I don't even feel there's sugar being poured um.
Speaker 5:There's no like cherry or anything involved yeah, but um, this incident did spook him because there was such an uproar over it and tons of people protesting, so he went on the air and issued an apology in spanish. Well that's, but he made it a big joke right because he thought it was funny to speak in Spanish.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Saying that he hates Yolanda, and he didn't mean to offend, okay, you know. So, like I said, you take the good with the bad.
Speaker 4:Yeah, this and the Dana Plato incident, 500 million bucks for five years, which is why no one at Sirius Radio gets paid, which is why the entire thing is shutting down. But anyway, go on.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, radio gets paid, which is why the entire thing is shutting down. But anyway, go on. Yeah well, her success is never-ending. She is still with us musically today. Uh, you know, as big as ever, people are still listening to her music yeah um still labeled the queen of tahano yeah and selena.
Speaker 5:The movie was successful and I guess in 2021 it was selected for preservation in the national film registry.
Speaker 1:Not bad yeah, she's got a museum and statue in corpus christi, um, so they're still keeping her name alive. Well, that's good. Well, on the other hand, in seven days from this recording, it's going to be march 30th, I believe, or 31st that. Uh, yolanda up for parole and I don't think she's going to be getting out.
Speaker 4:I really, really hope not Screw her. Yeah, absolutely disgusting.
Speaker 1:And Selena lives on forever.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 1:That'll take us to Final thoughts.
Speaker 4:Ooh, scary one. I mean I don't know. It's scary because, again, fans think they own you, they think they own a piece of you. And it's tough as an entertainer. You have to keep a distance, but you also you know it is a relationship to some degree, and you never expect someone to do what she did. So Selena was a victim of her own good nature and her own trusting of people, and Yolanda is one of the worst type of human beings that exists.
Speaker 5:And it's very sad. Yeah, human scum.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Be careful who you trust. Be careful who you let in. It's just hard, you just don't know, but when someone is showing signs that they're psychotic, such as if they're obsessive or if they're caught in a bunch of lies, things aren't making sense. Yeah, just get rid of them.
Speaker 1:It's never good to keep liars around.
Speaker 4:It's hard because I used to overlook so many red flags.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 4:It's tough because you don't want to believe that a person could act that way.
Speaker 5:But at the same time, you have to protect yourself, right? So actually I'm pretty quick with red flags now yourself, right? So actually I'm pretty quick with red flags now.
Speaker 1:I mean seriously, yeah, I don't put up with a whole lot of bullshit anymore. No, no, when you realize the monsters in the house, you gotta escort them out. Yep, yeah, I agree. And uh, do you guys hear that? You've got mail hey, we got ourselves a mail bag. Can you believe? Believe it, I love it. Comments that have just come up.
Speaker 5:Do we have some reactions to the Snow White episode? We do. Since the episode dropped, the Disney movie has indeed flopped.
Speaker 4:Oh my God, what was it? 43 million and it cost 250 million to make.
Speaker 5:They were claiming 50 million was going to be low.
Speaker 4:That's what it made for the box office. It's opening weekend 43.
Speaker 5:Wow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and Camel 91 said that it's weird that there's two famous gay guys called Alan Carr.
Speaker 5:Oh, yes, I forgot to mention that. So, very oddly, there's a portly comedian who wears really big glasses. Yeah, and his name is also Alan Carr, and they look very similar. Yeah, and his name is also Alan Carr, and they look very similar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, biden is a thief. Is you know someone who listens to every episode of ours?
Speaker 4:Biden is a thief. Yeah, he's the best.
Speaker 1:Biden is a thief, says Eileen Bowman's career was destroyed. Only eight acting credits on IMDb.
Speaker 5:Damn Poor girl. Yeah, I'm not even sure if it was destroyed, as much as never got started because of it, right, but she is acting in san diego quite a bit like doing still no theater. Yeah, so good.
Speaker 4:she says she's happy now good, the oscars should bring her back.
Speaker 1:They should, that would be great uh, speaking of ad reads, sean, for uh, the youtubers of death episode said that that show intro was chef's kiss. Nice job, kayatola, which is uh, you know something that you'll know if you listen to, okay, bud yeah, I didn't even know, that when he says sexist things.
Speaker 4:Oh, I'm the kayatola that's the kayatola.
Speaker 5:Like my comments about yolanda earlier. This pleases the kayatola that pleased the guy, here you go see, I thought I was pissing people off, but I guess not.
Speaker 1:No, not the kayatola yes, all right guys, that's another week down.
Speaker 4:Thank you so much for listening oh, my goodness, yeah, and great job guys, great research. I learned a lot and uh really appreciate it. Um, check out, okay, bud, uh again check out the patreon. Go to patreoncom, slash diebud. Just a couple of bucks a month and you can watch every show live. Thank you so much. We're building this thing, this plane. We're still in the tarmac, but we're about to take off, baby, so thank you all so much From the bottom of my heart. Hail yourself and until next week.
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